[sandorski]

hwacker wrote:

bootlegga wrote:

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

I suppose this is tolerable...so long as they are not allowed to vote provincially.

Ahhh, nothing like disenfranchising people, huh. Wanna take the vote away from women and natives next?

Typical...

AH, I think bootlegga is lonely and wants some liberal buddies to join him and the other 5 in the province at the voting booth.

WTF?

This isn't Slavania where people are the Property of Government. Anyone who resides in Alberta for 6 months(I believe) can vote. Tough luck if you don't like it.

[Joe_Stalin]

Yup yup yup.
Will a auto worker with a home, family and EI leave that and commute to Alta?

Or as was suggested the welfare bums will be given 1 way tickets to Alta?

If my memory does not fail me I think it was in 1948 that a Politician last spoke the truth about his hidden agenda.

or was it 1984?

[sandorski]

Joe_Stalin wrote:

Yup yup yup.
Will a auto worker with a home, family and EI leave that and commute to Alta?

Or as was suggested the welfare bums will be given 1 way tickets to Alta?

If my memory does not fail me I think it was in 1948 that a Politician last spoke the truth about his hidden agenda.

or was it 1984?

Speaking of Welfare and Tickets: Alberta did that, they sent them to BC. So turn around seems fairplay. However, that's not what this is all about.

[ziggy]

sandorski wrote:

Joe_Stalin wrote:

Yup yup yup.
Will a auto worker with a home, family and EI leave that and commute to Alta?

Or as was suggested the welfare bums will be given 1 way tickets to Alta?

If my memory does not fail me I think it was in 1948 that a Politician last spoke the truth about his hidden agenda.

or was it 1984?

Speaking of Welfare and Tickets: Alberta did that, they sent them to BC. So turn around seems fairplay. However, that's not what this is all about.

We did,one way greyhound ticket to Fernie compliments of social services.
Now they just go there on their own.

[ziggy]

As far as housing go's,if your going to fort mac then you stay in one of the huge camps for starters.No one says you have to live there.

Anywhere else in Alberta in the patch or pipelining you will live out of a hotel or a campground.That's just the way it is.There's still affordable housing in some small communities if you want to commute.
3 years ago it was cheaper for me to rent a mobile home out on the fringes of strathmore then to pay the campground fees for my motorhome.

[wildrosegirl]

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

Yogi wrote:

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

Places like Rainbow Lake and High Level aren't much better either. It isn't just Fort Mac that is getting a bit ridiculous.

All of Alberta is ridiculous. Oil towns, major cities or otherwise.

It doesn't matter where in Alberta you may consider relocating to - you're going to pay the big bucks for real estate. Not to the extent of Ft. Mac or Rainbow Lake and High Level (which were outrageously expensive long before Ft Mac fired up), but you still need an incredible wage to survive.

[mtbr]

proudcanukchick wrote:

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

Yogi wrote:

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

Places like Rainbow Lake and High Level aren't much better either. It isn't just Fort Mac that is getting a bit ridiculous.

All of Alberta is ridiculous. Oil towns, major cities or otherwise.

It doesn't matter where in Alberta you may consider relocating to - you're going to pay the big bucks for real estate. Not to the extent of Ft. Mac or Rainbow Lake and High Level (which were outrageously expensive long before Ft Mac fired up), but you still need an incredible wage to survive.

no you don't...other places in Canada are more expensive with fewer employment opportunities .

[wildrosegirl]

mtbr wrote:

proudcanukchick wrote:

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

Yogi wrote:

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

Places like Rainbow Lake and High Level aren't much better either. It isn't just Fort Mac that is getting a bit ridiculous.

All of Alberta is ridiculous. Oil towns, major cities or otherwise.

It doesn't matter where in Alberta you may consider relocating to - you're going to pay the big bucks for real estate. Not to the extent of Ft. Mac or Rainbow Lake and High Level (which were outrageously expensive long before Ft Mac fired up), but you still need an incredible wage to survive.

no you don't...other places in Canada are more expensive with fewer employment opportunities .

Yes there are. Doesn't mean you don't need a good wage to survive in Alberta.

[ziggy]

proudcanukchick wrote:

mtbr wrote:

proudcanukchick wrote:

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

Yogi wrote:

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

Places like Rainbow Lake and High Level aren't much better either. It isn't just Fort Mac that is getting a bit ridiculous.

All of Alberta is ridiculous. Oil towns, major cities or otherwise.

It doesn't matter where in Alberta you may consider relocating to - you're going to pay the big bucks for real estate. Not to the extent of Ft. Mac or Rainbow Lake and High Level (which were outrageously expensive long before Ft Mac fired up), but you still need an incredible wage to survive.

no you don't...other places in Canada are more expensive with fewer employment opportunities .

Yes there are. Doesn't mean you don't need a good wage to survive in Alberta.

One of the reasons lots of energy outfits pay every friday.I've seen guys come with a dome tent and the cloth's on their backs to work.A month later their hooked up with 3 other guys and rent/sharing a nice house for cheap.One thing about all the easterners,they look out for each other and give a helping hand when needed to get established.They were in the same boat before.

[SprCForr]

Yogi wrote:

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

This area is part of the patch. Both oil and gas. I think you guys over towards Viking have most of the gas. Halliburton, Schlumberge, and a wide host of the smaller players are all here doing their thing.

[ziggy]

SprCForr wrote:

Yogi wrote:

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

This area is part of the patch. Both oil and gas. I think you guys over towards Viking have most of the gas. Halliburton, Schlumberge, and a wide host of the smaller players are all here doing their thing.

Pretty well all of Alberta could be considered the "patch" as there's gas wells all over the province.

[SprCForr]

Ain't that the truth!

[mtbr]

"The main industries in and around Hardisty are petroleum and farming. There is a large petroleum "tank farm" near Hardisty, which is also a loci of oil pipelines. The oil industry in Hardisty focuses primarily on transport rather than oil processing or collection, and roughly 70% of all North America's oil is moved through Hardisty at some point. Some of the petroleum companies are, Gibsons, Enbridge, EnCana, and many others." wiki

[ziggy]

Coal bed methane. You can pretty well drill anywhere and get that.