[grainfedprairieboy]

Windsor asks West for help after losing 10,000 auto-industry jobs

EDMONTON - Mayor Stephen Mandel welcomes an idea that would see unemployed auto workers from his former home- town commute to work in Alberta.

The idea was proposed this week by Windsor, Ont., Mayor Eddie Francis as part of his plan to deal with that city's serious unemployment problem.

Mandel said Francis contacted him and the mayors of Calgary and Saskatoon about the idea.................


I suppose this is tolerable...so long as they are not allowed to vote provincially.

[noway]

What?....hello there...did they inform these people what the cost of living is in Alberta? Vote? hahaha...yep, that's a family's primary concern when there's no money coming in the door to pay bills or buy food for the kids.
They will be required to licence & insure their vehicles here (no cheap gov't insurance in Alberta) - pay alberta heath care (it's mandatory after 6 mo.) - if they have kids - school fees are $150 per kid on average not including school supplies ($90-250 for mine). Most kids are bussed to school and parents pay that (per kid),too ($35-65/mo). Average house price in Calgary - $400,000. Average rent for 2 bdrm apt - $1200/mo excluding utilities (plus DD $1200) IF YOU CAN FIND ONE. Utilities may (do)demand deposits for new service - add $400 min (that they hold for 6 to 12 mo).
Perhaps Mayor Francis should bankroll these relocations?
There are thousands of $10./hr jobs here in Alberta - You can't afford to live here on double that. Keep in mind many employers only offer part-time employment (damn government loophole). If you have a degree or a trade - come on down.
Don't get me wrong - I have friends from all over our fair country. These people should know what they are getting into. There are many Albertans unable to keep up, already.

[dino_bobba_renno]

noway wrote:

What?....hello there...did they inform these people what the cost of living is in Alberta? Vote? hahaha...yep, that's a family's primary concern when there's no money coming in the door to pay bills or buy food for the kids.
They will be required to licence & insure their vehicles here (no cheap gov't insurance in Alberta) - pay alberta heath care (it's mandatory after 6 mo.) - if they have kids - school fees are $150 per kid on average not including school supplies ($90-250 for mine). Most kids are bussed to school and parents pay that (per kid),too ($35-65/mo). Average house price in Calgary - $400,000. Average rent for 2 bdrm apt - $1200/mo excluding utilities (plus DD $1200) IF YOU CAN FIND ONE. Utilities may (do)demand deposits for new service - add $400 min (that they hold for 6 to 12 mo).
Perhaps Mayor Francis should bankroll these relocations?
There are thousands of $10./hr jobs here in Alberta - You can't afford to live here on double that. Keep in mind many employers only offer part-time employment (damn government loophole). If you have a degree or a trade - come on down.
Don't get me wrong - I have friends from all over our fair country. These people should know what they are getting into. There are many Albertans unable to keep up, already.

He's talking about shuttling them back and forth from Windsor to Alberta for work. He's not advocating they move here.

[dino_bobba_renno]

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

Windsor asks West for help after losing 10,000 auto-industry jobs

EDMONTON - Mayor Stephen Mandel welcomes an idea that would see unemployed auto workers from his former home- town commute to work in Alberta.

The idea was proposed this week by Windsor, Ont., Mayor Eddie Francis as part of his plan to deal with that city's serious unemployment problem.

Mandel said Francis contacted him and the mayors of Calgary and Saskatoon about the idea.................


I suppose this is tolerable...so long as they are not allowed to vote provincially.

We need the help and they need the work. It might be worth a try. If we can do this to help them I don't see why not. Better than seeing them go with out jobs and having their families suffer as a result. Ontario farmers were some of the first ones to step up to the plate when Alberta farmers were in need.

[camerontech]

transient workers are common, only people with a registered permanent address can vote from what I know. Transient workers in Alberta, Northwestern Ontario and the Arctic are very common, I don't see a problem with it at all.

[mtbr]

noway wrote:

What?....hello there...did they inform these people what the cost of living is in Alberta? Vote? hahaha...yep, that's a family's primary concern when there's no money coming in the door to pay bills or buy food for the kids.
They will be required to licence & insure their vehicles here (no cheap gov't insurance in Alberta) - pay alberta heath care (it's mandatory after 6 mo.) - if they have kids - school fees are $150 per kid on average not including school supplies ($90-250 for mine). Most kids are bussed to school and parents pay that (per kid),too ($35-65/mo). Average house price in Calgary - $400,000. Average rent for 2 bdrm apt - $1200/mo excluding utilities (plus DD $1200) IF YOU CAN FIND ONE. Utilities may (do)demand deposits for new service - add $400 min (that they hold for 6 to 12 mo).
Perhaps Mayor Francis should bankroll these relocations?
There are thousands of $10./hr jobs here in Alberta - You can't afford to live here on double that. Keep in mind many employers only offer part-time employment (damn government loophole). If you have a degree or a trade - come on down.
Don't get me wrong - I have friends from all over our fair country. These people should know what they are getting into. There are many Albertans unable to keep up, already.

Wow you must have it really tough....did you vote in the last election

[commanderkai]

Its interesting...living here I know there's few jobs left, which sucks, but thankfully I'm still a student. However if they find a good way to do this, its a good idea

[mapleleafsnation]

Family leaders from the Atlantic cost have been working in Alberta and sending money back home instead of bringing the whole family there.

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

[ziggy]

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Family leaders from the Atlantic cost have been working in Alberta and sending money back home instead of bringing the whole family there.

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

Weather your an Albertan or not,if you work in the energy industry here then there's a good chance you live out of a duffel bag and away from home while working.

[trueblueabguy]

Great idea, Alberta needs the labor, and if we can get it without having the influence of the easts mentality in all thing political, lets take advantage. Have the workers shuttled here for a period of time, stay in camp, and go home to Ontario. Its a great idea, we get the help we need and they keep their ideas and values in the east. They won't affect our way of life by diluting our conservative values with the socialism they endear. Let them keep their votes in the east, along with all the expense of health care, education etc. by remaining residents of Windsor.

[Alta_redneck]

Remember what started happening in Windsor last summer? He talks auto workers but what he really means is Mexicans. I have no problem with Mexicans that enter the country legally, after doing the proper paperwork or brought in by employers as foreign workers. These so called refugee’s can stay in Windsor. Better yet kick their asses out, their not refugees.

Quote:

WINDSOR, Ontario _ A sudden influx of illegal immigrants into Windsor is straining the city’s social safety net, costing taxpayers an estimated $200,000 so far, and forcing the mayor to ask for help from the Canadian government.
Over the past three weeks, 220 undocumented immigrants—mostly from Mexico—have driven from their homes in the United States to Detroit and crossed the border into Windsor to seek refugee status.
Much of the rush stems from groups in Florida that were putting false information on the Internet that Canada is now taking in illegal immigrants and offering them generous financial assistance, Windsor officials said.
“The word has spread like wildfire for other illegal immigrants to do the same,” Mayor Eddie Francis said. “There seems to be an ongoing effort by community groups who have been advertising that by coming to Canada and seeking refugee status, you’re able to escape enforcement and get access to social assistance and health care until your claim is heard. That’s been the driving force.”
Late Thursday, 20 illegal immigrants arrived in the city, Francis said Friday. One of the newcomers had a baby at a Windsor hospital that day.
“Although I empathize with their plight . . . we don’t have the ability to fund this,” Francis said Friday. “It’s brought our system to a pressure point.”
The unprecedented influx started Aug. 28 after Mexican immigrants in Florida grew increasingly worried about a U.S. government crackdown on illegal immigration.

[bootlegga]

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

I suppose this is tolerable...so long as they are not allowed to vote provincially.

Ahhh, nothing like disenfranchising people, huh. Wanna take the vote away from women and natives next?

Typical...

[hwacker]

bootlegga wrote:

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

I suppose this is tolerable...so long as they are not allowed to vote provincially.

Ahhh, nothing like disenfranchising people, huh. Wanna take the vote away from women and natives next?

Typical...

AH, I think bootlegga is lonely and wants some liberal buddies to join him and the other 5 in the province at the voting booth.

[Yogi]

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Yogi wrote:

mapleleafsnation wrote:

Also I believe the oil patches in the North have a lower cost of living (because they aren't huge cities). I assume this from the 'Week the Women Left' show that passed on CBC a while ago.

'Boy-0-boy' do you ever need to do some research! Google Ft. McMurray Today.

If a resident earns LESS than $72,000/yr, they qualify for foodbank assistance.Rent for a one bedroom apt starts at $2,200. These are considered 'low rentals'.And you won't find a hotel room for under $210.00/night. Grande Prairie is about the same.

*** 'The Week The Women Left' was another scripted attempt by CBC at 'reality TV. It was set in Hardisty, Ab. About 45 min from here, and I know several people who live there. Closer to Calgary than 'the north'!
This area, although being 'explored and pumped' is NOT considered 'the oil patch.It is primarily farming tho some of the families are able to live off the residuals paid to them by the oil companies and only farm as a hobbie.

Places like Rainbow Lake and High Level aren't much better either. It isn't just Fort Mac that is getting a bit ridiculous.