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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:02 am
 


Notta single mention of BC, well pppttthh to them too! Did we lose jobs or gain them here? Does anyone know?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:34 am
 


As usual, we lead the counrty.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:58 am
 


We're not doing so bad...
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In my opinion construction industry is one of the poorest signs of long term employment rates there is . The real issue lays within inflation , the cost of living , and interest rates . No point in running across the nation for minimum wage and a 1.4 % wage increase when the cost of living is going to suck . Don't forget about BC either ...its the land of people who line up for miles for a $400,000 rinky-dinky little apartment , and I'd question where these jobs are across the rest of the nation , dishwashers? , cooks ? , daycare facilities? ...do I sound pessimistic ? Where the jobs are concerned NO , where cost of living is associated YES .


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:33 pm
 


Thats a bit of a silly argument. If your talking aboot downtown Vancouver, your talking BRUTAL rent and high cost of living, if your talking outskirts of the lower mainland, its no more expensive than say Red Deer, AB. You can easily find an apartment or house for decent rent in parts of surrey, or mission, abbotsford.

Mind you the costs of land are getting redinkulous, but overall I dont see it being that much more expensive than anywhere else unless you absolutely MUST be smack in the middle of downtown.

It would however, be nice to see other job sectors being boosted with more jobs, tech sector, or other sustainable jobs, larger corporations moving into the area perhaps....


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:56 pm
 


Big thumbs up with that. I drive past 4 big plants that have "now hiring" signs out front. Yes, construction work relies on a construction boom but it's not exactly going away untill 2010.
There is a lot of optimism for Alberta and BC, working together into new levels of prosperity. Now we need more mining and off shore drilling to go with it.

The cost of property is retarded though.





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In my opinion construction industry is one of the poorest signs of long term employment rates there is . The real issue lays within inflation , the cost of living , and interest rates . No point in running across the nation for minimum wage and a 1.4 % wage increase when the cost of living is going to suck . Don't forget about BC either ...its the land of people who line up for miles for a $400,000 rinky-dinky little apartment , and I'd question where these jobs are across the rest of the nation , dishwashers? , cooks ? , daycare facilities? ...do I sound pessimistic ? Where the jobs are concerned NO , where cost of living is associated YES .


It's doing better then the oilpatch construction as rain will shut anyone down in the fields in an instant,not so in city construction.I see the majority of the jobs are service related.

I would like to see the stats for what jobs are being created and how much they pay.

Are we talking jobs at mc d's and other minimum wage jobs?


Also lots of Albertans work in the patch and its seasonal,lots also dont go on EI during spring breakup because it's just too much of a hassle and they will fuc* with you for years after so the stats would show this bunch of folks like me as employed when they really arent.

So I think the stats can be taken for what they are,info that was taken from the government from the folks on the books that they have access to as far as their info is concerned.
I didnt work for 2 months this spring and didnt go on EI so these stats would count me as being employed when I wasnt.

They make it so tough here that most dont go on it,they wont ask for you to pay it back for a couple years when all your t4's are gone to a better place,then it's not worth the time to miss a week of work to find the myriad of documents they ask you for.

And now Ontario and quebec have there hand out for Alberta resource dollars again with equalization payments.
Funny how Canadians from all over this country that want to work come to Alberta and have used the Alberta advantage to better themselves and make the industry productive and use their smarts to make it profitable so that they can bring family up here to also share in the wealth that is created from all these folks from all over Canada.

And when everything is in place thanks to the hard work and sweat of the folks that want to contribute,and the oil and gas is flowing the hands are now out palms up from Ontario and quebec.

I will say that in all the places I have worked in the patch the last few years I have been the lone born here Albertan 95% of the time.

So there's lots of jobs but still some dont want to pay,I have lots of buds off work right now because of rain,no way will they go to Calgary for $22.00/hr and only get 10 hours when they can go oilpatch for $33.00 and get $200.00 just for showing up(subsistence+truck)and work as long and as many hours as they want to.

Supply and demand.

Just look at the Horizon project,I threw my app in there a year ago just to see if I got a reply and seems they want Chinese workers instead. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:03 am
 


Interest rates are going to keep rising, perhaps by a fair amount.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:50 am
 


Didnt alberta benefit from equalization payments from Ontario when it wasnt doing very good? Or am I dreaming this stuff up?





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Didnt alberta benefit from equalization payments from Ontario when it wasnt doing very good? Or am I dreaming this stuff up?


A long time ago. The issue is now ontario and quebec want the resource profits included in the transfer payments.

Thats the way I see it,maybe Toro can explain it better.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:11 am
 


ridenrain wrote:
The cost of property is retarded though.
You've got that right. In the Okanagan the average new home is over 250k. That might sound good to some but I can't imagine paying 2K per month for a mortgage payment.


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