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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:08 pm
 


That's just one blade(they have three)There not fenced off either so you can drive right up to them. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:10 pm
 


Ah, but farts are carbon neutral (i.e. the methane comes from carbon sources that have only recently been absorbed from the atmosphere into your food) wheras coal and fossil fuel methane are from sources that have been sequestered for millions of years, and therefore when released into the atmosphere will add to the CO2 and climate change.





PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:14 pm
 


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Ah, but farts are carbon neutral (i.e. the methane comes from carbon sources that have only recently been absorbed from the atmosphere into your food) wheras coal and fossil fuel methane are from sources that have been sequestered for millions of years, and therefore when released into the atmosphere will add to the CO2 and climate change.


Carbon neutral? Please explain. :?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:22 pm
 


Well, using energy sources like biomass, methane from manure, and coppiced wood or charcoal are are considered to be "Carbon neutral". They absorb CO2 from the atmosphere to grow into trees or plants, and then when burned release the same amount of CO2. No Carbon Dioxide has been added to the atmosphere overall to contribute to climate change.

But coal, oil and gas represent massive amounts of carbon that have been underground for millions of years. When we burn them now in 2006, they release huge amounts of CO2 which our atmosphere is not adjusting to very well. THis is what is leading to climate change.





PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:23 pm
 


Better get some "Manpons".

manpons


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:32 pm
 


Manpons: "It's like a cool spring breeze..."





PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:34 pm
 


MissT wrote:
Manpons: "It's like a cool spring breeze..."


Sposed to be good for skid marks also,just ask Chopper or Penetrator. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:41 pm
 


Um thanks, maybe later... 8O


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:22 pm
 


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We are!


There you go; it's in your blood to use the wind!

Here's your plans... I'm not recommending them, just noting that they are, in fact, here (that's my CYA disclaimer):

http://www.scoraigwind.com/axialplans/index.htm


What kind of wattage do you get out of one turbine? Like on a consistant basis? Is it a viable short term option or is it more of a :in the long run" sorta deal? Oh and does it alternate back to the main grid if it stops working or you shit outta luck?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:30 pm
 


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What kind of wattage do you get out of one turbine? Like on a consistant basis? Is it a viable short term option or is it more of a :in the long run" sorta deal? Oh and does it alternate back to the main grid if it stops working or you shit outta luck?
I'm not an expert on homemade turbines, by any means, but I can say that there's no way you could rely on one that size (from the website) without backup sources. You would also not likely be able to strike the deal with the power corporation to get paid for the extra electricity you produce with a homemade rig, but again, I'm not sure.

From my understanding, a turbine is designed wto work within a certain rangle of wind speeds... the generator switched off when it's spinning too slow, and also when the wind is too strong.

I have heard of designs that actually change the angle the rotors based on the windspeed, to give it a better range. I'm not sure if those are in production, as it was a research project here at the university, but it's not something you'd use with a homemade rig, anyway.

On a personal note, building one of these wind turbines sounds pretty cool... it's the perfect project for someone who likes to build stuff, since it's got mechanical, electrical, and structural components... that website I linked to has pretty detailed and trustworthy looking plans.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:59 pm
 


Blue_Nose wrote:
You would also not likely be able to strike the deal with the power corporation to get paid for the extra electricity you produce with a homemade rig, but again, I'm not sure.


From what I have read in passing it's much easier to sell power back to the grid in the USA than in Canada. You most likely would need some type of meter to measure your use and/or supply at the grid connection.

Quite a few years ago before Ontario Hydro was split up there was a dispute in London Ontario because there were a couple of private power generatin facilities in the city and Hydro claimed they had a monopoly on supplying electricity and no competition was allowed.





PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:23 pm
 


It was one farmer at pincher station 25 years ago that had a wind turbine like that and he took on what was transalta power back then because they didnt want to pay him what they charged for power when it went back on the grid.
He won. On my link there is an application form to fill out if you have enough land to put one of those big mother's on.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:33 pm
 


I work in the power generation industry, and love all the interesting links/posts about wind, tidal, solar energy being posted.

The intent of my post was to point out how fickle the public is. Nobody wants to burn coal, put in a dam, burn natural gas, or consume huge tracts of land for wind farms. But the lights better come on when I flick that switch!!

Coal is the fuel of the future - it is cheap, and we have so much of it in North America that we don't have to rely on the insanity of the Middle East for our supply.

Wind power, solar power, tidal power: all interesting and unfeasible sources of global energy production. We need to come up with something better than that if we are serious about shutting down gas, coal, oil and nuclear sources of power.

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Check out this light- maybe this will help us reduce consumption one day.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:36 am
 


Wind and solar power works great for drying laundry. Hang it on the line.


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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:39 pm
 


One of the problems with wind:

When the wind doesn't blow...

Imagine all of the brownouts if we were wind dependent. On the other hand, you have TXU moving ahead with the only type of new power that the consumer can stomach, with their announcement of 11 new coal fired plants in Texas.

$10B Investment

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