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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:06 am
 


This is definately not the Canada I thought I knew!
Any one of you anti-US morons want to try and explain this ?

Booing U.S. kids was disgraceful
Vancouver should be embarrassed by fans' show of spite


Pete McMartin, CanWest News Service
Published: Thursday, January 05, 2006

VANCOUVER - It was near the end of the United States' semi-final game at the World Junior Hockey Championship when a group of foreign relations experts in the stands began chanting:

"U.S. sucks!"

Small detail here:

A Canadian team was not on the ice at the time.

If one were, that would have gone some way toward explaining the Yankee animus oozing out of the stands: File it under home-ice over-exuberance. It would have been forgivable. Barely.

But the Americans were playing the Russians at the time.

And the Canadian crowd wasn't just rooting for the Russians -- amazing enough in itself, considering that bitter history -- it was rooting against the Americans. And the chanters weren't so much interested in a hockey game as scoring points against America, the country, not the team.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:12 am
 


We're discussing this in the WJHC thread as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:15 am
 


ridenrain wrote:
This is definately not the Canada I thought I knew!
Any one of you anti-US morons want to try and explain this ?

Booing U.S. kids was disgraceful
Vancouver should be embarrassed by fans' show of spite


Pete McMartin, CanWest News Service
Published: Thursday, January 05, 2006

VANCOUVER - It was near the end of the United States' semi-final game at the World Junior Hockey Championship when a group of foreign relations experts in the stands began chanting:

"U.S. sucks!"

Small detail here:

A Canadian team was not on the ice at the time.

If one were, that would have gone some way toward explaining the Yankee animus oozing out of the stands: File it under home-ice over-exuberance. It would have been forgivable. Barely.

But the Americans were playing the Russians at the time.

And the Canadian crowd wasn't just rooting for the Russians -- amazing enough in itself, considering that bitter history -- it was rooting against the Americans. And the chanters weren't so much interested in a hockey game as scoring points against America, the country, not the team.

Full story


There's a bunch of American kids who will come home from Canada with a lasting impression.

What fun it will be when one of them becomes a Republican President in 2030 or so.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:17 am
 


But it is perfectly acceptable to hate the US ridenrain, nobody else on earth, just Americans. That especially includes American kids playing our game damn near as well as we do.

Everyone in that arena should be totally and utterly ashamed of themselves. That includes the folks who did not boo for not beating the living shit out of those that did. I know I would have lost it. :evil:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:39 am
 


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But it is perfectly acceptable to hate the US ridenrain, nobody else on earth, just Americans. That especially includes American kids playing our game damn near as well as we do.

Everyone in that arena should be totally and utterly ashamed of themselves. That includes the folks who did not boo for not beating the living shit out of those that did. I know I would have lost it. :evil:


Thank you. :wink:


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Wullu wrote:
But it is perfectly acceptable to hate the US ridenrain, nobody else on earth, just Americans. That especially includes American kids playing our game damn near as well as we do.

Everyone in that arena should be totally and utterly ashamed of themselves. That includes the folks who did not boo for not beating the living shit out of those that did. I know I would have lost it. :evil:


Why is one form of free speech acceptable "beating the shit out of those who did[boo]" while another, booing the anthem of a nation maybe you don't like, isn't.

I don't agree with it either, but then I also don't agree with guys like Zundel telling the world the Holocaust is Jewish propaganda either. But you know what? For there to be freedom of speech, it has to be true freedom, not just what the majority thinks is correct. Sometimes with freedom of speech, you have to hear things that you don't agree with...

Sorry, either it's a two way street or its a dictatorship.


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Wullu wrote:
But it is perfectly acceptable to hate the US ridenrain, nobody else on earth, just Americans. That especially includes American kids playing our game damn near as well as we do.

Everyone in that arena should be totally and utterly ashamed of themselves. That includes the folks who did not boo for not beating the living shit out of those that did. I know I would have lost it. :evil:


Why is one form of free speech acceptable "beating the shit out of those who did[boo]" while another, booing the anthem of a nation maybe you don't like, isn't.

I don't agree with it either, but then I also don't agree with guys like Zundel telling the world the Holocaust is Jewish propaganda either. But you know what? For there to be freedom of speech, it has to be true freedom, not just what the majority thinks is correct. Sometimes with freedom of speech, you have to hear things that you don't agree with...

Sorry, either it's a two way street or its a dictatorship.


It is called common courtesy. As a serving member of the forces I stop what ever I am doing when I hear ANY national anthem being played. There are folks like me serving that anthem. If folks cannot be adult enough to respect an anthem then anything they have to say is not worth my listening to.

Like a great AMERICAN said " I disagree with what you say, but will defend to my dying breath your right to say it" My response above is not me saying they cannot boo, it is me saying I can respond in kind as is my right.

Contradictory? Maybe. But if you want to get my ire up then disrespect people that have done NOTHING to earn that disrsepect.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:02 am
 


no one is saying these people don't have a right to voice their opinions freely, i think the real question is why did they behave in this manner at this event? what are the underlying reasons and what does this mean for faultering relations between our country's peoples....


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Why is one form of free speech acceptable "beating the shit out of those who did[boo]" while another, booing the anthem of a nation maybe you don't like, isn't.


Did they boo the anthem or just the team???


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Did you miss out the part on good sportsmanship when they sent you to school in North Korea?
It's a game. It's the same convention that makes all of us play by the same rules, instead of doing whatevr we have to do to win.

To turn it around, has anyone ever heard of Americans booing a foreign teams?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:10 am
 


Are we upset that they booed anybody?
Or that they booed the US?
Or that they didn't boo Russia?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:16 am
 


Bad enough that they boo'd anyone, but I like to think we have more in common with the US than the Russians. That's not just more cold war blather, but a simple fact.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:16 am
 


Hester wrote:
Are we upset that they booed anybody?
Or that they booed the US?
Or that they didn't boo Russia?


For me? Anybody. It is the ultimate in poor behavior. These are kids for crying out loud. If the Leafs fans want to boo the Habs fill yer boots, they are pros. To boo the kids of a country that has been the best of friends to this country just shows a complete and utter lack of respect and class.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:18 am
 


ridenrain wrote:
Did you miss out the part on good sportsmanship when they sent you to school in North Korea?
It's a game. It's the same convention that makes all of us play by the same rules, instead of doing whatevr we have to do to win.

To turn it around, has anyone ever heard of Americans booing a foreign teams?


I've never heard of that at all.

As I have said before, much to the chagrin of the resident lefties on CKA, Canada does not want to attract the attention of America this way. I know it is an unequal relationship and it will always be so unless Canada suddenly becomes America's equal in every way.

As anyone who knows me should know, I'm dearly fond of Canada.

That said, if the booing and hissing and name calling from the liberals does not abate, as our Ambassador advised, there will be repercussions.

Canada and the USA have been friends for a long time, but if you boo enough and call our President a moron enough and act like you don't like us, then at what point do you expect us to start paying attention to that?

At some point the general public down here will collectively say, "Hey, Canada hates us."

Once that becomes enough people to win votes for whichever politician panders to the anti-Canada vote then there will be problems.

And softwood and etc. will be the least of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:19 am
 


it is a disgrace, but so was the "sportsmanship" some of the US players showed at the end of thier last 2 games.

but in the end, the people in the stands were ignorant.

boo the players, but show respect for the country.

i may think bush is a shameful, lying, two-faced sack of poo, but i still respect the office of the president.


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