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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:41 am
 


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/the-quiet-americans-who-are-canadas-invisible-immigrants/article1697253/

Now these are people we should be allowing to the head of the line:

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These invisible immigrants – there are one million, more than at any time since the Vietnam War – are a unique group. According to a leading American geographer, they come to Canada not for economic opportunities, but for the country’s set of values.

Americans are attracted by their view of Canada’s more liberal culture. That includes support for a universal public health-care system, positive attitudes toward gays and lesbians, gun control laws and multiculturalism.


All we need is a surefire test to keep the Teabaggers and their ilk out.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:06 am
 


If your neighbour is out of Work, the proper solution is

a) Social safety net
b) Tax Cut

If they answer "B", they're Tea Baggers.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:53 am
 


I might be joining the group, God Save the Queen of Canada and the Canadian Parliamentary system if we had it George Bush would have been in a mental hospital long long time ago, Sara Palin would be frequently held for Psychiatric Evaluation frequently.

I'd probably piss off the French as I don't tolerate now any disrespect to the National Anthem and traditional Canadian institutions.

At any US V Canadian Hockey team I might be arrested for being somewhat less than polite in my demonstration of F the yanks (Which I'm sure doesn't happen [too often]).

I'm getting ahead of myself here.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:43 am
 


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These invisible immigrants – there are one million, more than at any time since the Vietnam War – are a unique group. According to a leading American geographer, they come to Canada not for economic opportunities, but for the country’s set of values.

Americans are attracted by their view of Canada’s more liberal culture. That includes support for a universal public health-care system, positive attitudes toward gays and lesbians, gun control laws and multiculturalism.


That being said I know of lots of Canadians who have moved down to the USA because of the gun laws, multiculturalism and being able to get medical services right away instead of 6 months later.

I may move to the USA one day depending on what happens in Canada over the next decade, simply because I refuse to live in a nanny state.


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That being said I know of lots of Canadians who have moved down to the USA because of the gun laws, multiculturalism and being able to get medical services right away instead of 6 months later.

I may move to the USA one day depending on what happens in Canada over the next decade, simply because I refuse to live in a nanny state.


See, it all works out. The fruit cakes can move south, the sane people north. Everybody wins.

You can get immediate health care here, same as the states. You just have to pay for it, same as the states. The waiting period is to qualify for resident status for insurance. If you're moving from province to province, you're still covered under your old plan for 6 months.

Try moving to the states, buying insurance on Tuesday and coming in Wednesday to tell them you have cancer. I'm thinking they'll call that a pre-existing condition and you won't get coverage - unlike in your nanny state.


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KorbenDeck wrote:
That being said I know of lots of Canadians who have moved down to the USA because of the gun laws, multiculturalism and being able to get medical services right away instead of 6 months later.

I may move to the USA one day depending on what happens in Canada over the next decade, simply because I refuse to live in a nanny state.


See, it all works out. The fruit cakes can move south, the sane people north. Everybody wins.

You can get immediate health care here, same as the states. You just have to pay for it, same as the states. The waiting period is to qualify for resident status for insurance. If you're moving from province to province, you're still covered under your old plan for 6 months.

Try moving to the states, buying insurance on Tuesday and coming in Wednesday to tell them you have cancer. I'm thinking they'll call that a pre-existing condition and you won't get coverage - unlike in your nanny state.

Hmmm, I'm not too sure about the last one...
I remember I had to fill out some forms for Blue Cross to be insured the first 3 months after we landed (you are NOT covered as a foreigner) and pre-existing conditions were not covered.

I didn't want to pay $600 tho, so we weren't covered the first 3 months. I have seen the family doctor 3 times in my 3 years in Canada, twice for myself, and once for my daughter. The first time was within those first 3 months, and I had to pay $40 for the consultation.


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andyt wrote:
See, it all works out. The fruit cakes can move south, the sane people north. Everybody wins.

You can get immediate health care here, same as the states. You just have to pay for it, same as the states. The waiting period is to qualify for resident status for insurance. If you're moving from province to province, you're still covered under your old plan for 6 months.

Try moving to the states, buying insurance on Tuesday and coming in Wednesday to tell them you have cancer. I'm thinking they'll call that a pre-existing condition and you won't get coverage - unlike in your nanny state.

Hmmm, I'm not too sure about the last one...
I remember I had to fill out some forms for Blue Cross to be insured the first 3 months after we landed (you are NOT covered as a foreigner) and pre-existing conditions were not covered.

I didn't want to pay $600 tho, so we weren't covered the first 3 months. I have seen the family doctor 3 times in my 3 years in Canada, twice for myself, and once for my daughter. The first time was within those first 3 months, and I had to pay $40 for the consultation.


Nope, you're not covered as a foreigner and need to buy insurance if you want medical coverage until you qualify as a resident for a particular province. I have no problem with that. But if the US, if you buy your insurance the day you arrive, and then run to the doctor with a problem the next day, you'll probably not be covered as a pre-existing condition. That is the most perverse part of the US system (if you really need coverage you can't get it) and a good thing that Obama is getting rid of it.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:46 pm
 


A million people that have to be taught that Canadian patriotism is shown by emphatically not waving a flag.

But it indicates a dangerous time for our neighbor to the south.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:26 pm
 


Some days i've been tempted to move to Canada for jobs and quality of life. Also the universal health care is a good idea. I may have the wait for non-emergency issues, but for anything else I don't have worry as much for huge bills.

Heck my wife and I are still trying to pay off my wife's medical bill when she sliced her hand. The cut was only a inch. Stayed in the ER for 5 hours got stitches in left. Then we get a bill for $800 bucks. Insurance only paid $115 for the bill. It would have been cheaper if I told my wife put put duct tape on it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:53 pm
 


Well, to be an immigrant and not to pay taxes, that's being asshole, because anyway they are having better life than they had (I think so) and don't want to pay for what they have. Another side is when they are illegal, maybe that would like to pay, but can't because will be sent back by being recognised.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:55 pm
 


andyt wrote:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/the-quiet-americans-who-are-canadas-invisible-immigrants/article1697253/

Now these are people we should be allowing to the head of the line:

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These invisible immigrants – there are one million, more than at any time since the Vietnam War – are a unique group. According to a leading American geographer, they come to Canada not for economic opportunities, but for the country’s set of values.

Americans are attracted by their view of Canada’s more liberal culture. That includes support for a universal public health-care system, positive attitudes toward gays and lesbians, gun control laws and multiculturalism.


All we need is a surefire test to keep the Teabaggers and their ilk out.


Looks like US doesn't have gun control laws and multiculturalism.Bullshit. They can have a gun, but few laws controll it. If it was used once, it's registering. The other side is when during the first using, the person was killed.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:10 am
 


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Or stiched it up yourself.


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Personally, the few Americans I've met living in Canada are fine upstanding people with morals and values we want in this country, Same for Brits and alot of Euros, as opposed to some cultures that foster Gangs and Crime (sorry but it's true)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:18 am
 


Choban wrote:
Personally, the few Americans I've met living in Canada are fine upstanding people with morals and values we want in this country, Same for Brits and alot of Euros, as opposed to some cultures that foster Gangs and Crime (sorry but it's true)



This post and many others here are just complete generalizations.

The Americans, if they want to immigrate here should wait their turn, just like everyone else.

We just had a thousand posts railing against the Tamil migrant ship, and immigrants in general of course, and now the loudest proponents are suggesting we speed up American immigration applications status to Canada.

Sorry, but no.

We're (supposed to be) a country of laws and principles. Letting them in, "just cause we like 'em" shouldn't be an option.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:52 am
 


andyt wrote:
All we need is a surefire test to keep the Teabaggers and their ilk out.


Teabaggers bad, radical jihadist muslims okay. So noted.


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