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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:25 pm
 


If passed, new American energy legislation contains wording allowing for protectionist, anti-Canada, tariffs.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/24/why- ... or-canada/


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:28 pm
 


Wow kind of ironic isn't it ? Obama is proving to be more threatening to Canada than Bush every was.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:28 pm
 


Impossible, we all know Barack Obama is in fact Christ reborn, and he will save us all.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:11 am
 


well i am quite liberal myself so i like to see him in there, but everyone should have known that the democrats were always anti-free trade, are there any suprises here?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:11 am
 


Booleus wrote:
well i am quite liberal myself so i like to see him in there, but everyone should have known that the democrats were always anti-free trade, are there any suprises here?


And the interesting thing is that politically our Liberal party has been pro-free trade for decades and ideologically, classical liberalism is pro free-trade.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:17 am
 


Yeah right, and I'm the King of Mars.

You just wake me up when they actually just say 'no' to all that oil coming from right next door from people who aren't going to throw a molitov cocktail at them. This is an old story and they've already started to backpedal.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:45 am
 


Yeah, I doubt Obama is going to run through any protectionist policies soon, even if he were so inclined (I am not clear on his policy positions there). The arguments over healthcare, cap-and-trade, the war in Afghanistan, corruption in politics, and everything else are going to make trade agreements not a high priority for quite some time.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:48 pm
 


Wow. You folks should be careful about criticizing Obama or he'll walk across the St. Lawrence and teach you a lesson! :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:59 pm
 


Akhenaten wrote:
Yeah right, and I'm the King of Mars.

You just wake me up when they actually just say 'no' to all that oil coming from right next door from people who aren't going to throw a molitov cocktail at them. This is an old story and they've already started to backpedal.


And natural gas, and hydro and minerals and diamonds(gem and industrial).
Hell, we can sell those to other nations for more than we're forced to sell them to the US under the FTA.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:53 pm
 


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Wow kind of ironic isn't it ? Obama is proving to be more threatening to Canada than Bush every was.

Release the hounds...


Nothing new there. During the election anyone with a brain weighing more than a nanogram knew Obama was bad news for Canada:

1. Protectionist
2. Would push the GHG agenda
3. Would continue to "thicken" the border.

Still haven't figured out why so many Canucks supported him.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:03 pm
 


This should perk up his interest in us a bit.

Quote:
PetroChina to take 60 per cent stake in Athabasca Oil Sands

CALGARY — A Chinese energy giant is making a nearly $2-billion investment in the Canadian oilsands.

Athabasca Oil Sands Corp. says PetroChina is buying a 60 per cent working interest in its Mackay River and Dover oilsands projects in northeastern Alberta.

Bill Gallacher, chairman of Athabasca, says it’s hard to finance oilsands developments in the traditional equity markets.

He says a joint venture with one of the world’s largest oil companies will ensure the two projects are completed in a timely manner.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:52 pm
 


Protectionism in the US has more to do with local and pork barrel politics than it does to do with the policy posiiotns or ideology of the Democrats or Republicans.

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Still haven't figured out why so many Canucks supported him.


Well I figured his body count would be a lot lower. Bush presided over the deaths of about a million in Iraq, not to mention the whole torture and arbitrary detainment thingies. A little protectionism doesn't really add up to a whole lot in the face of that kind of slaughter. Besdeis, Bush was just as protectionist (see softwood lumber tariffs). McCain arguably would have been more fre trade, but again, he would have been as much a victim of a venal and corrupt Senate and Congress as Obama is.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:18 pm
 


Dems have always been more protectionist. Well, at least we have NAFTA and the WTO to complain...


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Dems have always been more protectionist. Well, at least we have NAFTA and the WTO to complain...


That's not true. The Republicans have a much broader track record of protectionism, going back to Benjamin Harrison who defeated Grover Cleveland on that very issue. Tariffs were THE core of the Republican Party platform going back to the late 1800s. Wilson reduced the Republican tariffs but when the Republicans took over after WWI, they increased tariffs again (Fordney-McCumber tariff). Again, in the 30s, the Republicans raised tariffs (Smoot-Hawley tariff). After WWII, the GATT was created to reduce protectionism globally, and over the history of the GATT (1947-1995) protectionism fell yearly, regardless of the party of administration, with the exception of the AutoPact, passed in '64 under Johnson and a number of protectionist programs brought out by Reagan (VERs, and other red-tape programs largely aimed at the Japanese). Reagan, as a president, led the most protectionist of any administration of the GATT period.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:27 pm
 


For all the hockey lovers.

OTTAWA -- Canada's six NHLteams are scrambling to find alternative travel arrangements south of the border after the U.S. Department of Transportation banned Air Canada's charter fleet from flying between U.S. cities.

In a furious exchange with the Obama administration over the mid-August ruling, Canada has launched its own investigation and will soon close its skies to U.S. sports team charters in retaliation, warns Transport Minister John Baird.

The sticking point is an eight-year-old exemption that had allowed sports and celebrity charters to make several pit stops in American cities. Under existing open skies agreements, regular Canadian airline flights can only visit one U.S. city before returning.


http://www.nationalpost.com/story-printer.html?id=1964153

Glad you love Obama so much, he doesn’t like Canadians or hockey.


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