[Canadaka]

I have been thinking about removing negative voting on the CKA news links. The main reason I added negative voting was to allow junk or spam links to be removed by the community. As it happens over the 3 years the current news system ahs been running, there has been very little problems with spam news postings. And if there is its usualy a news moderator that removes it before it would get enough negative votes to drop off.

As the news formula is right now, very few news stories get "dropped". So why not just ditch negative noting. Other that or make it easier for news to be dropped, but the problem with that is almost all negative novtes seem to be done in a partisan way.

A lot of "social" community based news sites like Digg.com don't have negative voting.

[DerbyX]

Why not eliminate voting altogether? So far the voting seems to be entirely partisan (and the apparent occupation of whomever zled the non existent user is).

Let Hyack remove all opinion and blog pieces even if they say "opinion" so that only true factual news reports get posted. We might also institute a limit per day posting, say no more then 2 or 3. Anymore then the limit and it gets toasted.

[WDHIII]

I think that might be a good idea considering the abuse that has arisen from this, people voting down news stories based on POSTER rather than the story itself.

Of course theres the party line to consider too

The only time I neg a story is if its a blog or spam - if I dont agree with it I just wont give it a +.

The good stories will STILL rise to the top....

[RUEZ]

Is there a problem with the voting system?

[WDHIII]

DerbyX wrote:

Why not eliminate voting altogether? So far the voting seems to be entirely partisan (and the apparent occupation of whomever zled the non existent user is).

Let Hyack remove all opinion and blog pieces even if they say "opinion" so that only true factual news reports get posted. We might also institute a limit per day posting, say no more then 2 or 3. Anymore then the limit and it gets toasted.

zled was an AMATEUR compared to some.

If we eliminate the voting althogether but still use HITS to determine what goes on the "most popular" page doesnt this open it up to another kind of abuse?

Maybe we should get rid of the neg vote AND the HIT system and just go with the + vote.

Only problem with that is only a small number of members seem to use the voting system

[QBC]

Get rid of the voting system period. The system was abused in many ways. Nuke it and all those problems go away.

[RUEZ]

Why not get rid of negative reps then as well. People have been asking for that for far longer. That has been abused quite extensively.

[WDHIII]

RUEZ wrote:

Why not get rid of negative reps then as well. People have been asking for that for far longer. That has been abused quite extensively.

[wildrosegirl]

RUEZ wrote:

Is there a problem with the voting system?

Not for most folks around here. Just a few pansies had issues with it. You know how it is on Sesame Street.

[RUEZ]

wildrosegirl wrote:

RUEZ wrote:

Is there a problem with the voting system?

Not for most folks around here. Just a few pansies had issues with it. You know how it is on Sesame Street.

I guess. As a person who has voted down stories and has had stories voted down, I see no problem with the status quo. People need to take the internet less seriously.

[Scape]

I don't use the vote system. I reply to a thread once it is in the forums but otherwise, unless it is on the twitter stream I rarely read them. For me the system had become hyper partisan and as a result I stopped posting news links outright quite some time ago and only post directly to the forums and tuned right out.

I think the whole news posting is a fundamental part of this site but is inherently toxic by nature and with the current set up only aggressive modding with clearly defined regulations would keep it under raps. That is too labour intensive so I vote we remove the neg vote and have a rep system similar to the rep system we have now for members where the registered users of the site only can vote and the longer they have been here and the more active they are the more value their vote is.

[QBC]

RUEZ wrote:

Why not get rid of negative reps then as well. People have been asking for that for far longer. That has been abused quite extensively.

Why not get rid of all rep points then?...they have been abused by both negative and positive means

[WDHIII]

wildrosegirl wrote:

RUEZ wrote:

Is there a problem with the voting system?

Not for most folks around here. Just a few pansies had issues with it. You know how it is on Sesame Street.

yeah abuse is ALWAYS an non issue isnt it

[QBC]

Nope...nuke news voting and rating by hits, nuke the rep points. That would take care of all the BS from both sides who abused it.

[wildrosegirl]

RUEZ wrote:

wildrosegirl wrote:

RUEZ wrote:

Is there a problem with the voting system?

Not for most folks around here. Just a few pansies had issues with it. You know how it is on Sesame Street.

I guess. As a person who has voted down stories and has had stories voted down, I see no problem with the status quo. People need to take the internet less seriously.

You hit the nail on the head.