[cougar]

As an immigrant, there is one little thing bothering me all the time. It is a result of my own percieved failure in this country.

You go to university in Canada and you evalute the work of each and every of your instructors. You graduate and they send you a survey form to see how the new skills helped you in finding a job. You are bombarded by all types of customer satisfaction surveys on the phone and internet, in the mail as well.

Yet in now 10 years I have been in this country, noone at CIC ever inquired how I was doing to evaluate how successful their program is. I guess they know the answer and they just do not want to hear it.

How they come up with their statistics is beyond me, as I have not heard of them doing a comprehensive survey. They may be using a pre-selected sample of immigrants, or producing figures based on their feeling about their own program.

[andyt]

Nobody cares how well you do is why. Our immigration policy doesn't seem to focus on what's best for Canadians or immigrants. Just to keep piling more warm bodies into the country and hoping they will vote for you, and speaking out against it is racist.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Seriously dude? You think you should get to evaluate the system that was nice enough to let you in in the first place? Are you for fucking real?

If yer not satisfied, there is an easy solution and I think you can guess what it is.

[andyt]

See what I mean?

[EyeBrock]

The system has been well fucked since the early 1980's.

[andyt]

EyeBrock wrote:

The system has been well fucked since the early 1980's.

1984 to be precise.

[Zipperfish]

andyt wrote:

Nobody cares how well you do is why. Our immigration policy doesn't seem to focus on what's best for Canadians or immigrants. Just to keep piling more warm bodies into the country and hoping they will vote for you,

This is it exactly. The window of foresight for any politician in this country is exactly up to the next election. Nothing after that matters. Democarcy has alot of upsides to it, but that is one of the downsides.

[EyeBrock]

I'm thinking since about 1982. That's when huge changes on entry requirements came in and the Brits were no longer allowed in.

[SprCForr]

We got some pretty damned good people in the green machine up until that year. Willing immigrants and wanting to serve to boot.

[EyeBrock]

Yea, not too many new immigrants come here and join up. The Brits and Paddies did, up until 1982.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Canada has larger problems than immigration. The jobs being created are low wage, contract position, in boom and bust industries and in the private sector mostly without pensions. In fact economic growth for the country is not working out. Left to itself the economy would wage inflate to better pay but then go into a mild recession. This maybe part of the answer to the backsliding social order in our country. Economist study immigrant outcomes while ignoring the direction of the economy. They don't have the budgets to do both properly.

[cougar]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

Canada has larger problems than immigration. The jobs being created are low wage, contract position, in boom and bust industries and in the private sector mostly without pensions.

If the job market were not inundated with people, wouldn't the employers have to raise the wages and come up with attractive benefit packages to keep their employees?

The economic mechanizms within Canada are quite clear. What I have a poor grasp of is the international repercusions of higher wages / reduced profits to the corporate leaders and sherholders.

If in 2012 Canada admits 0 immigrants, 0 foreign workers and 0 international students, what will hapen to wages and the unemployment rate?

[Lemmy]

The labour market is much too complex to hypothesize as you are without a great deal more information.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock wrote:

I'm thinking since about 1982. That's when huge changes on entry requirements came in and the Brits were no longer allowed in.

I've got a lot of ex-pat Brit buddies. Scots too. They point out that Canada is what Britain used to be, which is why they moved here. The invasion of Muslims did a lot of damage to that country. I like multiculturalism, but an influx that happens too quickly can damage the fabric of a nation.

[Wada]

I can only say that my experience here on the east coast is or seems totally different than what I read here on CKA. I realize the numbers are different and guess that larger numbers have their own problems but I can't remember ever meeting an immigrat here who has not fit in and been successful too.