[Lemmy]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

That's not scientific.

Sure it is, unless the percentage of "useless/lazy people" is greater among immigrants. Even that would be scientific, I suppose, in a human genetics kind of way. I'm maybe a little higher than I thought I was going to be before I smoked that.

[Bruce_the_vii]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

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This is why I'm known in Parliament.

Still sending nude pictures of yourself to MPs??

Actually I've learned to take the foul language out of my letters.

I have significant support in Parliament for the idea I'm posting here. Getting more people working would, for one, cure the structural fiscal deficit. It's pretty straighforward. On the Liberal side I have the Chairman of the Election Platform Committee, Navdeep Bains, and the Deputy Leader, Marlene Jennings, just waiting for Michael Ignatieff and Finance Critic John McCallum to pay attention to to them. On the Conservative side I have Cabinet Minister Joisee Vanier and former leader Peter McKay just waiting for Prime Minister Stephan Harper and Finance Minister Flaherty to come down from their daily power high and listen to other people. They have leaked this information to me, it's sort of a political key. In both camps there's debilitating communication problems.

[PostFactum]

So wifes go to work,children alone or with unknown someone, and we will have a generation of dumbs, cool.

[ASLplease]

Proculation wrote:

Proculation wrote:

If I remember well, after 6 months on welfare (or EI ?) you are considered non-active so you are not included in the "unemployement" statistics.

So, yes, 4.5% is not the actual number. 4.5% is the number for ACTIVE persons (ie. people looking for jobs).

In french, we say "chômage" when you are active and not working. So, when you loose your job, your are "en chômage" (ie. EI). Since since years ago, "assurance-emploi" (EI) was called "assurance chômage". After a certain period without a job you go to welfare if you didn't find a job. So it seems to be more clear in french since "unemployement" (chômage) doesn't mean "without a job" but the period when you are active but not working. Like weekends, holidays (paid), etc.

Thanks for mentioning that. it sounds like the french have a better perspective on this,.

[ASLplease]

Bruce, I dont think that it would be correct to inflate an unemployment number for an area that has many post secondary students. If you are going to include them into a formula, you need to season the formula with something to account for this.

[Brenda]

PostFactum wrote:

So wifes go to work,children alone or with unknown someone, and we will have a generation of dumbs, cool.

Euhmmm.. wtf?

[Bruce_the_vii]

ASLplease wrote:

Bruce, I dont think that it would be correct to inflate an unemployment number for an area that has many post secondary students. If you are going to include them into a formula, you need to season the formula with something to account for this.

I do season the formula. I use the reference level in the best areas where some people have eschewed school in favour of work. So the statisitic captures only the reluctant students. You know unemployed is not quite the exact word, reserve work force maybe more accurate than unemployed. Reluctant students aren't exactly unemployed.

[Bruce_the_vii]

PostFactum wrote:

So wifes go to work,children alone or with unknown someone, and we will have a generation of dumbs, cool.

I think it's here to stay.

[Faye]

Look at Scandinavia: women work full-time, even when they have kids. They have maternity leave for a year. I don't think Scandinavians are a bunch of dumb people, if you ask me. At least, I am not.

[Faye]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

My wife, with a M.Ed, chose to do this for our kids until they were 3 years old, then she returned to teaching/administration part time for another year. She didn't consider herself unemployed during that time and most other full time parents don't either, nor should they be considered as such. It's a job that unlike most is 24/7. The pay may suck, but the pay off is the best. She was continually asked(begged at times) to return to 'work' during these periods, but she refused to.

4 - 5 % unemployment has traditionally been referred to as full employment because there are always those who are in between jobs, quitting or being fired. There are also those who choose to be unemployed

Same here. I am looking for a job, but I am not registered. I just take my time, since I don't have to work for the money, yet. However, I would like to have a job, because you never know what might happen. My husband would like me to have a job too.

Hmmm interesting part about the people being out of a job multiple times a year. Never thought of that before, statistically.

[martin14]

PostFactum wrote:

So wifes go to work,children alone or with unknown someone, and we will have a generation of dumbs, cool.

We already have in Canada.

Coming soon to an East Europe country near you.



Enjoy what 'democracy' will steamroll over you.