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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:50 pm
 


here's a good article from 1999 that highlight how fikken ridiculous the anti-rights crowd has been by targeting duck hunters

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5. Alienating millions of honest citizens that police rely on to help them do their job

Finally, and most importantly, the government has made a serious mistake in targeting honest, responsible Canadians with their politically motivated gun registration bill. Duck hunters and target shooters never were and never will be part of the violent crime problem in Canada. The Commissioner of the RCMP even said so in a 1997 letter to the Department of Justice, "The RCMP investigated 88,162 actual violent crimes during 1993, where only 73 of these offences, or 0.08 per cent, involved firearms." In 1996, Statistics Canada reported in Canadian Crime Statistics that there were a total of 291,437 crimes of violence. Of this total, there were 121,291 violent incidents where weapons were involved but only 6,375, or just 2.2%, that involved firearms. Of the violent offences where firearms were involved, 74.9% involved handguns [almost all unregistered] and only 6.9% involved rifles and shotguns. Still the government ignores this evidence and plods ahead spending hundreds of millions to register 20 million rifles and shotguns which represent only 0.15% of the violent crime problem in Canada. So if hunters, farmers, collectors and sport shooters aren’t the problem, why criminalize and tax their remarkably safe and totally legitimate pastimes? What the government has done is turn 7 million law abiding firearm owners into potential criminal suspects. Consequently, this useless registry has undermined respect for the law and those dedicated officers who are required to enforce it. Out west, many are now referring to the RCMP as "Chretien Cops." This does not bode well for achieving our goals of fighting real crime and making our streets safer.

Police know who the real criminals are and they know how to catch them. Police desperately need more human resources and more effective crime fighting tools. Unfortunately, the Liberal’s bogus gun registry isn’t one of those tools. In fact, it’s depriving police of the resources they need to improve public safety and save lives in Canada. It should be scrapped immediately.

http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/breitkre ... 90628.html


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:54 pm
 


How is someone advocating tighter gun control anti-rights? Would advocating looser gun control be anti-rights to non gun owners?

Do you purposely begin these threads with inflammatory and polarizing rhetoric or is it by accident?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:07 pm
 


The Auto Owners have had their Rights trampled on for decades. Whoa is they and their burdensome Registry!!!

Quit being an Idiot, Register your Guns.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:13 pm
 


Gunnair wrote:
How is someone advocating tighter gun control anti-rights?


Because it restricts a right.

Gunnair wrote:
Would advocating looser gun control be anti-rights to non gun owners?


Not at all. Their right to not own a gun is not affected by someone else's right to own a gun.

Gunnair wrote:
Do you purposely begin these threads with inflammatory and polarizing rhetoric or is it by accident?


Actually, he's rather accurate with this. Millions of law abiding citizens have been rendered into criminals both by the stroke of a pen and by the relentlessly biased drumbeat of an anti-gun media.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:20 pm
 


Bart, i consider 'anti-rights' to be more acurate than the undisputed 'anti-gun'

afterall, how can someone be considered 'anti-gun', when they are in favor of the pollice and military having guns?

what most of them want is 'anti-rights for private citizens'

which i choose to call 'anti-rights'


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:23 pm
 


Bart wrote:

Gunnair wrote:
How is someone advocating tighter gun control anti-rights?


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Because it restricts a right.


Does it? Gun ownership is not an enshrined right in Canada. At the same time, the registry does not preclude ownership.

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Not at all. Their right to not own a gun is not affected by someone else's right to own a gun.


That's a great play on words. :lol: Those calling for stricter gun control are not trying to preserve their rights to not own a firearm, they want stricter gun control in order to minimize the number of firearms in Canada as well as ensure the firearms that exist are registered.

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Do you purposely begin these threads with inflammatory and polarizing rhetoric or is it by accident?


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Actually, he's rather accurate with this. Millions of law abiding citizens have been rendered into criminals both by the stroke of a pen and by the relentlessly biased drumbeat of an anti-gun media.

How are they criminals?


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sandorski wrote:
The Auto Owners have had their Rights trampled on for decades. Whoa is they and their burdensome Registry!!!

Quit being an Idiot, Register your Guns.


i have an unregistered car in my driveway with the keys left in the ignition and a full tank of gas.....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:25 pm
 


ASLplease wrote:
Bart, i consider 'anti-rights' to be more acurate than the undisputed 'anti-gun'

afterall, how can someone be considered 'anti-gun', when they are in favor of the pollice and military having guns?

what most of them want is 'anti-rights for private citizens'

which i choose to call 'anti-rights'


Uh okay. Well, for my honest edification, where in the Charter does it say Canadians have the rights to bear arms.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:29 pm
 


Wow. Yet another boring long gun registry thread.


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EyeBrock wrote:
Wow. Yet another boring long gun registry thread.


no one is forcing you to participate, but please do so


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:28 pm
 


ASLplease wrote:
sandorski wrote:
The Auto Owners have had their Rights trampled on for decades. Whoa is they and their burdensome Registry!!!

Quit being an Idiot, Register your Guns.


i have an unregistered car in my driveway with the keys left in the ignition and a full tank of gas.....
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come and arrest me!


Be careful, Keys in Ignition probably is a Fine.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:36 pm
 


EyeBrock wrote:
Wow. Yet another boring long gun registry thread.


Didn't Stemmer get banned for the very same reason?


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sandorski wrote:
ASLplease wrote:
sandorski wrote:
The Auto Owners have had their Rights trampled on for decades. Whoa is they and their burdensome Registry!!!

Quit being an Idiot, Register your Guns.


i have an unregistered car in my driveway with the keys left in the ignition and a full tank of gas.....
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come and arrest me!


Be careful, Keys in Ignition probably is a Fine.


really?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:51 pm
 


Lemmy wrote:
EyeBrock wrote:
Wow. Yet another boring long gun registry thread.


Didn't Stemmer get banned for the very same reason?


stemmer got banned because he hurt the poor feeling of a toyota owner. :cry:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:54 pm
 


ASLplease wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
EyeBrock wrote:
Wow. Yet another boring long gun registry thread.


Didn't Stemmer get banned for the very same reason?


stemmer got banned because he hurt the poor feeling of a toyota owner. :cry:


Ask the mods. I bet they tell you different.


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