[ASLplease]

DerbyX wrote:

given what an inch? In fact I came onto this thread more because I was mentioned.

Are you saying that CPC MPs should be above all criticism? Why aren't you expressing similar statements when its the Libs getting? Where were you when ridenrain was quoting a few disgruntled Lib bloggers over Iggys support of Harpers crime bill?

Quiet frankly I think Raitt deserves public criticism. She either carelessly left secret documents lying around or was a whistleblower over something she was in charge off.

Worse was John Baird's attempt to help cover it up. BOTH of those actions deserve public scrutiny.

Her comments about her colleagues are an internal matter but no different the internal Liberal grumblings that get posted her with glee (and never once criticized by you guys attacking me).

go ahead an have fun with this post....I can't comment because now you are talking specifics. Specifics is good, that is what I was encouraging. But, I haven't been following the drama on this story so I don't really know whats going on.

[dino_bobba_renno]

DerbyX wrote:

Its dead on and you know it. The fact that the nanny herself has a history makes her story even less believable.

The fact is that Raitt made those comments but thats all internal stuff anyway. No party is composed entirely of people who like and respect everyone else in their party.

Regardless, the issue isn't her big mouth but her actions over the leaked documents.

Give me a break, Dhalla is a pompous bitch who's only interests lay in furthering her own career. She broke the law and paid the price. Sorry but no one superimposed her head on someone else’s body this time.

The issue of Dhalla and Raitt are completely separate and have absolutely nothing to do with each other, all you're doing is trying to deflect and high jack the topic.

[DerbyX]

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

Its dead on and you know it. The fact that the nanny herself has a history makes her story even less believable.

The fact is that Raitt made those comments but thats all internal stuff anyway. No party is composed entirely of people who like and respect everyone else in their party.

Regardless, the issue isn't her big mouth but her actions over the leaked documents.

Give me a break, Dhalla is a pompous bitch who's only interests lay in furthering her own career. She broke the law and paid the price. Sorry but someone superimposed her head on someone else’s body this time.

The issue of Dhalla and Raitt are completely separate and have absolutely nothing to do with each other, all you're doing is trying to deflect and high jack the topic.

No. Dhallas was a smear job pure and simple. She denies any wrong doing and in fact hasn't been found guilty of anything though she paid the price already politically.

Raitt got caught red handed and nothing is being denied at all. She DID leave those documents behind and she DID say those things on the tape.

As for you characterization that she is a pompous bitch well thats just your opinion. Belinda got called worse for her crime of crossing the floor and when CPC MPs are attacked with insults like that then the same people who made those insults start complaining when its done to those MPs.

Raitt deserves to answer publicly and explain herself and I have no doubt that were she a Liberal the responses here would be very different.

[DerbyX]

ASLplease wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

given what an inch? In fact I came onto this thread more because I was mentioned.

Are you saying that CPC MPs should be above all criticism? Why aren't you expressing similar statements when its the Libs getting? Where were you when ridenrain was quoting a few disgruntled Lib bloggers over Iggys support of Harpers crime bill?

Quiet frankly I think Raitt deserves public criticism. She either carelessly left secret documents lying around or was a whistleblower over something she was in charge off.

Worse was John Baird's attempt to help cover it up. BOTH of those actions deserve public scrutiny.

Her comments about her colleagues are an internal matter but no different the internal Liberal grumblings that get posted her with glee (and never once criticized by you guys attacking me).

go ahead an have fun with this post....I can't comment because now you are talking specifics. Specifics is good, that is what I was encouraging. But, I haven't been following the drama on this story so I don't really know whats going on.

What do you mean there? As for not knowing the specifics. Why are you here debating then? They are front and centre to the issues at hand.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX wrote:

ridenrain wrote:

"This is unfair..."
Whenever you get in trouble you bitch about me then drag out every deflection and distraction you can find.

This entire Raitt thing is just a distraction over the huge nuclear boondoggle that the Libs have left behind. The replacement should have been up and running but gross mismanagement pissed the funds away.

Quote:

Already eight years late and 400 per cent over budget, the federal government's new $600-million nuclear reactors don't work and will likely never be in service, highly placed sources told Sun Media.

http://cgi.bowesonline.com/pedro.php?id ... xid=402247

All of it was covered the last time you tried blaming the Libs for CPC mismanagement. Its been 3.5 years. When will you guys step up and take responsibility for your government?

3.5 years is better than the first fake smear when the lapdog Liberal media dumped the whole Chalk River boondoggle on a government that was in power for only 6 months.

Believe it or not, it takes quite a while to build a reactor and even more when what you have in a Chernobyl starter kit. We saw how big governments like the Liberals do this and that's why the Harper government is looking to sell this off.

You puffins sure are crappy at hiding your shit.

[ASLplease]

meh.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain wrote:

3.5 years is better than the first fake smear when the lapdog Liberal media dumped the whole Chalk River boondoggle on a government that was in power for only 6 months.

Believe it or not, it takes quite a while to build a reactor and even more when what you have in a Chernobyl starter kit. We saw how big governments like the Liberals do this and that's why the Harper government is looking to sell this off.

You puffins sure are crappy at hiding your shit.

Blah blah blah. Just more of the same tired refrain from Harper's crew.

"Don't blame us it was the Liberals fault".

Don't worry. We are working hard at making sure you can rightfully criticize the Liberals for government choices!

[ridenrain]

Deflection..
Why no comment or explanation over the 400% overbudget boondoggle?
Why didn't Canadians get any value for their $600 Million?

This is all the Liberals fault and you're just looking or somone else to hang this on.

[DerbyX]

No, you are just attempting to throw Raitts actions at the Liberals. This thread is about her not your attempt to blame the mess on the Liberals when Harpers been running it for 3 and a half years now.

[dino_bobba_renno]

DerbyX wrote:

Raitt got caught red handed and nothing is being denied at all. She DID leave those documents behind and she DID say those things on the tape.

On the first issue of the documents you are dead wrong:

Quote:

On June 3, 2009, Ms. MacDonnell resigned from her position as Communications Director as a result of having left a binder containing secret documents pertaining to the affairs of the Department of Natural Resources at CTV’s Ottawa studios following an interview there with Minister Raitt.

As for the second issue of the tape, what did she get caught doing? Trash talking about a co-worker? Show of hands here please, who is not guilty of talking negatively about a co-worker? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

What is the woman guilty of Derb? Having a private conversation where she talked about a topic and used a poor choice in words? Wow, that's a pretty serious offence there. Yes it was inappropriate and extremely stupid but it was a private conversation which unbeknownst to her was being taped. If we're going to put forward a standard that anything an MP says regardless of it's in private or not then we're setting the bar pretty high. If anything the Liberals may want to watch their backs on this one because I have a feeling this will come back to haunt them.

[EyeBrock]

Taped and left in a washroom by the same staffer who left the binder at CTV who's father, Ralston MacDonnell is a Liberal fundraiser.......

[poquas]

I hear the tinfoil hat crowd might be forming a quorum.........

[kenmore]

Fact is she is a loser who made a loser comment, just like john Baird..
she should quit! guess she was on the news crying her eyes out to-day and so appologetic.. well people won't forget! bastards

[Gunnair]

DerbyX wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

The question is irrelevant. The cons are complaining that the Liberals are baying for Raitts blood when they were baying for Dhalla's blood. I'm quite sure she faced many Liberal MPs who did just that privately just as Raitt will.

Right. Don't bitch when Cons are as partisan in their defence of their MPs as your are.

Funny. This entire thread seems to be about cons complaining their MPs are being attacked unfairly and they are concocting half-baked conspiracy theories while they do it.

OTOH, I seem to have been attacked because I was defending my MPs. You didn't seem to be so concerned then.

Don't flatter yourself. Pointing out political hackery on all sides hardly comes from any level of concern.

[EyeBrock]

poquas wrote:

I hear the tinfoil hat crowd might be forming a quorum.........

It 'aint 911. These dots are easy to join up. Same chick leaving everything everywhere with a Liberal fundraiser for a dad. Hardly tinfoil land. Your distaste for Harper is skewing your objectivity.

Personally I think Raitt is a waste of space but a 4th Class Constable straight from training could figure this one out.