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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:46 am
 


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America spends too much on defence and peacekeeping, but Canada and most allies spend too little.

Canada spends only 1% of GDP on military and peacekeeping activities, the US 3.8% while Britain, France, Turkey, Greece, Portugal, Poland and even Estonia are at 2% of GDP. Germany is 1.3% and Canada is on the low end of the NATO spending scale, dramatically lower than Australia at 1.6%.

Military spending is not about war mongering or asking for trouble. Pulling your weight makes economic sense: Security is a necessary infrastructure to trade and, in Canada’s case, stepping up in support of its major trading partner and allies is important.


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http://business.financialpost.com/2014/ ... nd-abroad/


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:54 am
 


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:56 am
 


The Harper Motto: Talk loudly, carry a little stick.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:57 am
 


This is rather timely given that the Russians are revising their nuclear policies to include a pre-emptive first strike on the West and then they just ran a cruise missile launch exercise off of Canada.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... kes-on-us/


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:02 pm
 


Keep the budget where it is.

Never commit to spending a percentage of something just to say you are. It's a bad idea. Spend the money when and where you need to, not just because it's expected.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:09 pm
 


The CF needs new ships, new aircraft, and a bulked up operating and training budget just for starters.

The money is needed, bastards won't spend it.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:31 pm
 


Neither the electorate or the government is willing to do what it takes to finance the kind of military we say we allegedly want to have. Just like the Native reserves this is a problem that will most likely never be solved in anyone's lifetime. We can either have a military dedicated to homeland defense or one that is capable of projecting power overseas, but it's doubtful at best that we'll be capable of doing both.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:33 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Neither the electorate or the government is willing to do what it takes to finance the kind of military we say we allegedly want to have. Just like the Native reserves this is a problem that will most likely never be solved in anyone's lifetime. We can either have a military dedicated to homeland defense or one that is capable of projecting power overseas, but it's doubtful at best that we'll be capable of doing both.


ATM, I'd doubt the military's ability to do either task very well.


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Thanos Thanos:
Neither the electorate or the government is willing to do what it takes to finance the kind of military we say we allegedly want to have. Just like the Native reserves this is a problem that will most likely never be solved in anyone's lifetime. We can either have a military dedicated to homeland defense or one that is capable of projecting power overseas, but it's doubtful at best that we'll be capable of doing both.


If we can project power half way around the world, we should be able to do so at home.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:36 pm
 


I doubt that any changes will ever be made as long as government policy is driven by overseas crisis-of-the-moment thinking instead of by a comprehensive long-term national defense strategy.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:49 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Neither the electorate or the government is willing to do what it takes to finance the kind of military we say we allegedly want to have. Just like the Native reserves this is a problem that will most likely never be solved in anyone's lifetime. We can either have a military dedicated to homeland defense or one that is capable of projecting power overseas, but it's doubtful at best that we'll be capable of doing both.


The electorate has dictated what type of military it wants and it's exactly what we have. It's not a political issue for the vast majority of Canadians.

Does this even qualify as a "problem"? I don't think so. Nor do I think this issue needs to be "solved".


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:54 pm
 


I guarantee you our rotting destroyers, ancient SAR planes, elderly Sea Kings, and our knackered tankers are "problems". They've been problems for years.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:18 pm
 


But for the majority of Candians, that ony becomes a problem when they are needed. Then there will be hue and cry about why they weren't taken care of and government ineptitude when, as OTI says, we have the military we voted for.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:22 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
But for the majority of Candians, that ony becomes a problem when they are needed. Then there will be hue and cry about why they weren't taken care of and government ineptitude when, as OTI says, we have the military we voted for.


No, this not the military we voted for. The CPC did not run on a platform of defence cuts.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:26 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
No, this not the military we voted for. The CPC did not run on a platform of defence cuts.


They didn't run on trashing vets either, but that's what they do. Nothing matters to them except for a budget surplus and getting re-elected.


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