[mapleleafer1985]

This is unacceptable, this should be treason...Tony Clement TONY CLEMENT AND HIS AIDES CONSPIRING WITH THE AMERICANS ON HOW TO SET OFF THE PANIC BUTTON IN ORDER TO GET THIS NEW U.S STYLE COPYRIGHT LAW

Secret U.S. government cables show a stunning willingness by senior Canadian officials to appease American demands for a U.S.-style copyright law here.

The documents describe Canadian officials as encouraging American lobbying efforts. They also cite cabinet minister Maxime Bernier raising the possibility of showing U.S. officials a draft bill before tabling it in Parliament.

The cables, from the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa, even have a policy director for then industry minister Tony Clement suggesting it might help U.S. demands for a tough copyright law if Canada were placed among the worst offenders on an international piracy watch list. Days later, the U.S. placed Canada alongside China and Russia on the list.

The documents, released by WikiLeaks, are the backdrop to a 2010 Conservative copyright bill that virtually adopted the U.S. government's rigid enforcement of “digital locks” on DVDs, CDs and e-books.

Digital locks are the technology that, for example, prevent DVDs from being copied and make it impossible to view a disc from India on a North American disc player.

With few exceptions, American law makes it illegal to override digital locks in any way.

Many consumer groups describe the American approach as draconian.

When Canada proposed a similar law on digital locks in 2010, education groups noted that it would have prevented students from copying short segments of electronic books to use in classroom assignments.

The Canadian bill died when the May 2 election was called. A new copyright bill is expected to be introduced when Parliament resumes. Judging by past willingness to bow to U.S. pressure, few will be surprised if it mirrors the 2010 effort.

The U.S. cables describe a December 2006 meeting between Bernier, industry minister at the time, and then U.S. ambassador David Wilkins.

“Bernier also stated that the final copyright legislation ‘would be in line' with US (government) priorities, but was not specific,” says the U.S. Embassy cable.

“Bernier promised to keep the Ambassador informed on the copyright bill's progress, and indicated that US (government) officials might see the legislation after it is approved by Cabinet, but before it is introduced in Parliament,” the cable adds.

Bernier also “encouraged the Ambassador to speak publicly about the importance of (intellectual property rights) to the United States, saying such efforts would improve the chances of Cabinet and Parliament approving a good copyright bill,” the cable says.

Bernier never had a chance to leak the bill; he was shuffled to the foreign affairs portfolio before it was tabled. But other officials did provide the U.S. with confidential information.

A 2007 cable reveals that Ailish Johnson, working in the Privy Council Office, told U.S. officials that Prime Minister Stephen Harper's “mandate letters” to new industry minister Jim Prentice and new Canadian heritage minister Josée Verner charged both with introducing a copyright reform bill before the end of the year. The content of ministerial mandate letters is not public information.

A U.S. Embassy cable written in April 2009 describes a meeting between Zoe Addington, director of policy for then industry minister Clement, and U.S. officials.

“In contrast to the messages from other Canadian officials, she said that if Canada is elevated to the Special 301 Priority Watch List (PWL), it would not hamper — and might even help — the (government of Canada's) ability to enact copyright legislation,” the cable says.

Days later, Canada was elevated on the piracy watch list.

Several WikiLeaks cables released earlier this year chronicle the sustained U.S. lobbying effort on copyright.

In a June 2005 cable, the U.S. talks about the “need to engage the legislative branch as well as relevant departments.” It also proposes creating a bilateral working group and offers to conduct training sessions for Canadian officials.

A June 2006 cable discusses meetings with Bernier and then heritage minister Bev Oda. A March 2007 cable reports on repeated meetings and attempts to elevate the issue as a top priority.

The cables hint that the U.S. appears to be aware of legislative initiatives before almost anyone else.

Another previously unreleased confidential 2009 cable discusses Canadian plans for an intellectual property enforcement bill separate from the copyright reform bill.

The cable states that “the government has completed legislation to enhance Canada's IPR (intellectual property rights) enforcement measures. However, the government has no plans to introduce the bill in Parliament any time soon because no funding was linked to the legislation in the last budget.”

The source of that cable is unknown.

A confidential 2007 cable reveals Andris Zarins, the RCMP's former national coordinator for intellectual property crime, told U.S. Embassy officials that the government was drafting legislation to grant customs officers new seizure powers for counterfeit products, and that it planned to create a national coordination office on intellectual property crime.

The government has never confirmed or discussed the existence of such a bill.

[Gunnair]

Got a link?

[mapleleafer1985]

I don't expect the conservative posters to be disgusted by this, If I could I would round up all of the conservative supporters and drop them in Iran

[mapleleafer1985]

Gunnair wrote:

Got a link?

I meant to provide a link, sorry

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1048993#comments

[Gunnair]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

I don't expect the conservative posters to be disgusted by this, If I could I would round up all of the conservative supporters and drop them in Iran

How on Earth did you become such a incomparable idiot?

I mean really, are you such a fucktarded extremist as to drop vapid little gems like that for public consumption and still expect to have any kind of meaningful dialog?

If you've decided that all you can personally achieve on this forum is to demonstrate your ability to drop trousers and be spanked, then so be it.

I expect your trolling won't last much longer.

[mapleleafer1985]

conservatives only care about their party, they don't care about the country

I don't belong to any party but I am a left winger...I have no allegiance to any party, I just want Canada to be respectable which it hasn't been since the sponsorship scandal and has continued by the many conservative scandals
and dealings such as this

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Wake the fuck up

[Gunnair]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

conservatives only care about their party, they don't care about the country

I don't belong to any party but I am a left winger...I have no allegiance to any party, I just want Canada to be respectable which it hasn't been since the sponsorship scandal and has continued by the many conservative scandals
and dealings such as this

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Wake the fuck up

Bye.

[jeff744]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

conservatives only care about their party, they don't care about the country

I don't belong to any party but I am a left winger...I have no allegiance to any party, I just want Canada to be respectable which it hasn't been since the sponsorship scandal and has continued by the many conservative scandals
and dealings such as this

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Wake the fuck up

Please leave, you are giving the rest of us left wingers a bad name.

[Freakinoldguy]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

I don't expect the conservative posters to be disgusted by this, If I could I would round up all of the conservative supporters and drop them in Iran

Well you've turned into a one trick pony now, haven't you?

The hardon you've got for Tony Clement is quickly becomming a twisted perverse personal obsession that you might want to get some help about.

[Freakinoldguy]

jeff744 wrote:

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

conservatives only care about their party, they don't care about the country

I don't belong to any party but I am a left winger...I have no allegiance to any party, I just want Canada to be respectable which it hasn't been since the sponsorship scandal and has continued by the many conservative scandals
and dealings such as this

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Wake the fuck up

Please leave, you are giving the rest of us left wingers a bad name.

Thanks.

This guy is so far gone that his left wing is only a position on a hockey team.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

I don't expect the conservative posters to be disgusted by this, If I could I would round up all of the conservative supporters and drop them in Iran

Not me, I'd rather round up the partisan hacks of any stripe and use them for shark bait.

Hope you don't mind if I call you "Chum"?

[DanSC]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Eh I'd say Canada is Australia Jr. at best.

[jeff744]

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

I don't expect the conservative posters to be disgusted by this, If I could I would round up all of the conservative supporters and drop them in Iran

Not me, I'd rather round up the partisan hacks of any stripe and use them for shark bait.

Hope you don't mind if I call you "Chum"?

Chumlee might be a bit more accurate.

[Gunnair]

DanSC wrote:

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

this is no longer Canada, we are U.S junior

Eh I'd say Canada is Australia Jr. at best.

Agreed. Being US jr these days is economic death sentance. Best to cover you guys with eleven foot pole marks at best.

[bootlegga]

mapleleafer1985 wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

Got a link?

I meant to provide a link, sorry

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1048993#comments

If this is accurate, then it's essentially Marc Emery part deux (enforcing American laws in Canada), and I'm totally against that in any way shape or form.

However, your link points to the comments section, not a news link or even a blog, so I find it somewhat suspect. Find some concrete evidence of this and then it'll be an issue. Until then, it's just internet hearsay.