[Gunnair]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Those polls are accurate within +/- 3.446% 98.77 times out of 101, every second leap year when Friday the 13th falls on a Wednesday afternoon. And only if the polls are taken outside a pub at closing time whilst wearing a tee shirt with the words "Lefties go Screw Yourselves".

What step is denial in the program?

[Gunnair]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Between the Tories' "nasty" reputation, Justin Trudeau's vacuous platitudes and lack of substantive policy, and Thomas Mulcair's pandering to Quecbecois nationalists (to say nothing of intermittent bozo eruption from a member of his party), it is slim pickings for the voter.

Yeaaaaa....non partisan truth!

[Gunnair]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Family history for one. If people expect JT to be anything like his father, then the deficit is more likely to increase.

Oops - it was non partisan. Family history? That is super sized silly.

[FieryVulpine]

Gunnair Gunnair:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Family history for one. If people expect JT to be anything like his father, then the deficit is more likely to increase.

Oops - it was non partisan. Family history? That is super sized silly.

Well, not quite. I am uncertain if the Tories and NDP would cease with the deficit spending in the near future either. I was just responding to Curt who seems to believe that JT can walk on water, figuratively speaking.

Perhaps I am being unfair to the senior Trudeau though. It is not like his government was the only one in the West that ran deficits at the time nor did Mulroney stop running deficits either.

[raydan]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Family history for one. If people expect JT to be anything like his father, then the deficit is more likely to increase.

Maybe he's a lot more like his mother... the fact that we've seen him "scantily clad" is proof enough.

[Unsound]

raydan raydan:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Family history for one. If people expect JT to be anything like his father, then the deficit is more likely to increase.

Maybe he's a lot more like his mother... the fact that we've seen him "scantily clad" is proof enough.

Does that mean we can look forward to Senator Mick Jagger?

[Curtman]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

R=UP

If Liberals can deliver a costed budget proposal with achievable deficit elimination, and convince Canadians that the green shift is not a carbon tax... We're in.

It's still a carbon tax and everyone will pay a lot more for everything. It was bad policy under Dion and it's still bad policy. If Trudeau tries to resurrect it the Conservatives will win another majority.

But I'm glad you said convince because it shows that deep down inside YOU know it's a tax.

Maybe you should have used words like show or PROVE.

The simple truth is, corporations do what is profitable. They haven't done much of anything to reduce emissions. They will reduce emissions if it affects their budgets.

Nothing else we can do, will.

When the tax they pay allows us to further reduce income tax, it amounts to less tax that you and I pay, and reduced pollution.

[raydan]

Unsound Unsound:

raydan raydan:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Family history for one. If people expect JT to be anything like his father, then the deficit is more likely to increase.

Maybe he's a lot more like his mother... the fact that we've seen him "scantily clad" is proof enough.

Does that mean we can look forward to Senator Mick Jagger?

Even Mick couldn't wake them up.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

The simple truth is, corporations do what is profitable. They haven't done much of anything to reduce emissions. They will reduce emissions if it affects their budgets.

Or leave and setup shop somewhere else if it gets too expensive.

Some have this illusion that companies will just suck it up and pay when we've seen companies move and close shop already in Canada and move to areas where it's cheaper to operate.

[Curtman]

We should tax things we want less of, instead of things we want more of.

A tax on pollution to offset reduction of income tax is what we are talking about.

Those companies who can have already moved find cheap labour.

[Curtman]

In a related story....

Carbon Dioxide at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Observatory reaches new milestone: Tops 400 ppm

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On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii, surpassed 400 parts per million (ppm) for the first time since measurements began in 1958. Independent measurements made by both NOAA and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography have been approaching this level during the past week. It marks an important milestone because Mauna Loa, as the oldest continuous carbon dioxide (CO2) measurement station in the world, is the primary global benchmark site for monitoring the increase of this potent heat-trapping gas.

Carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere by fossil fuel burning and other human activities is the most significant greenhouse gas (GHG) contributing to climate change. Its concentration has increased every year since scientists started making measurements on the slopes of the Mauna Loa volcano more than five decades ago. The rate of increase has accelerated since the measurements started, from about 0.7 ppm per year in the late 1950s to 2.1 ppm per year during the last 10 years.

“That increase is not a surprise to scientists,” said NOAA senior scientist Pieter Tans, with the Global Monitoring Division of NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colo. “The evidence is conclusive that the strong growth of global CO2 emissions from the burning of coal, oil, and natural gas is driving the acceleration.”

Before the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century, global average CO2 was about 280 ppm. During the last 800,000 years, CO2 fluctuated between about 180 ppm during ice ages and 280 ppm during interglacial warm periods. Today’s rate of increase is more than 100 times faster than the increase that occurred when the last ice age ended.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

We should tax things we want less of, instead of things we want more of.

A tax on pollution to offset reduction of income tax is what we are talking about.

Those companies who can have already moved find cheap labour.

But if companies pack up and move, what good does a personal income tax reduction have when you have no job?

With Canada being such a small piece in the grand scheme of world-wide emissions, are we willing to risk our economy considering the problem will still exist in a major way even with Canada emitting zero?

[jj2424]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

And I would not count on a Trudeau-led Liberal party to deliver a budget with "achievable deficit elimination." They will raise the deficit, if anything.

Why do you say that, given that Harper has increased the deficit and Chretien/Martin Liberals are the only ones in modern times who have ever consistently run balanced budgets and reduced it?

Oh yeah ..lol check the unemployment rates during Chretien's/Martin's "balanced budgets.' What the hell was the problem then? There was no recession like 2008 to contend with. Lefties complain about the unemployment rate now? Short memories from the left.

Which ass wipe tried to overthrow parliament because he felt the cons weren't spending enough to contend with the recession? ..he's six feet under pushing up daisies.

[jj2424]

Curtman Curtman:

We should tax things we want less of, instead of things we want more of.

A tax on pollution to offset reduction of income tax is what we are talking about.

Those companies who can have already moved find cheap labour.

We could legalize pot and tax it at 300%!


I'm sure slapping a big tax on it wouldn't push it back into the grop ops.

[Curtman]

jj2424 jj2424:

Curtman Curtman:

We should tax things we want less of, instead of things we want more of.

A tax on pollution to offset reduction of income tax is what we are talking about.

Those companies who can have already moved find cheap labour.

We could legalize pot and tax it at 300%!


I'm sure slapping a big tax on it wouldn't push it back into the grop ops.

Marijuana Legalization Canada: Liberal Party Lays Out Detailed Economic Plan For Pot

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Legalizing marijuana in Canada would create thousands of jobs and become a significant new source of tax revenue, the Liberal Party says in a new draft policy paper — but only if the government can get weed prices down and quality up.

The report, from the B.C. branch of the party, estimates Canada would need a network of 2,700 retail outlets to sell to the country’s estimated three million regular pot smokers.

It recommends using provincial liquor store networks as part of the infrastructure to deliver marijuana, a similar approach to the one being taken in Washington state, where pot prohibition was ended by popular vote last fall.

“We recommend legal marijuana be sold to the public through specialty private stores and/or anywhere regulated liquor sales take place,” the report states.

The Liberal Party voted overwhelmingly to make marijuana legalization a part of its official platform at its biennial convention last year.

But any effort to wrest the marijuana industry from the hands of organized crime will require legal pot sellers to provide a higher quality product at a lower price, the report argues.

“To be successful and prevent organized crime from maintaining a black market, the price of legal marijuana must be lower than it is now. At the same time, the product’s quality must be at least as good – if not better,” the report states.

The report cites a RAND Corporation estimate that cannabis accounts for nearly 0.3 per cent of Canada’s economy, and a Fraser Institute report estimating weed to account for two to four per cent of B.C.’s gross domestic product.

It argues that simply decriminalizing marijuana would not be enough.

“Without legalizing production, sale and consumption together, organized crime will continue to meet the market demand and law enforcement agencies and health care professionals will remain in limbo,” the report says.

Whereas Colorado and Washington state — which both ended their marijuana prohibitions in ballot initiatives last fall — cap the legal amount for pot possession at one ounce, the Liberal policy paper proposes a four-ounce limit.

“We feel this is reasonable and akin to purchasing a 40 or 60 oz. bottle of vodka or whisky a couple times a year instead of buying a small bottle each month,” the report says.

It estimates that a “regular” user of marijuana smokes one gram per day, or about an ounce per month.

Report co-author Sangeeta Lalli said a legal marijuana regime would be especially beneficial to British Columbia, which would benefit from a pot tourism industry similar to the one Amsterdam is known for.

“We’re known around the world for having good cannabis,” she said, as quoted at by Postmedia News.

Lalli told The Georgia Straight that legalization is the key to addressing safety and health concerns about pot.

“Once we legalize, then we can regulate the product,” she said.

Even as the Liberals propose lower prices for weed for everyone, the government in Ottawa appears to be moving in the opposite direction.

The Tories’ new medical marijuana law takes away the ability of licenced marijuana patients to grow their own supply, something a group representing medical pot users says will lead to higher prices and more patients seeking pot in the underground economy.

The notion that Vancouver could become a pot tourism destination a la Amsterdam is controversial. The Dutch have had mixed results with their approach to marijuana, with the country’s right-leaning government recently restricting pot sales through the issuing of a “weed pass” that can only be obtained by Dutch citizens.

But after an outcry from Amsterdam politicians and business owners about the potential negative impact on tourism, the government backed down on plans to enforce the law in the city.