[andyt]

at lowest level since 1973: StatsCan http://ca.news.yahoo.com/crime-rate-fell-again-2010-lowest-level-since-125122556.html

Quote:

Data released Thursday by Statistics Canada shows the crime rate continued a 20-year decline last year, dropping five per cent from 2009 and hitting the lowest level since 1973.
The homicide rate was the lowest since 1966.

This is going to make some conservatives very angry. Bunch of soft on crime commies at Stats Can. They forgot to include all the unreported crime out there - it's everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Huh, must be all the provinces with their CCW laws that's responsible for the decrease.

[bootlegga]

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

Huh, must be all the provinces with their CCW laws that's responsible for the decrease.

Yep, and the threat of all those new prisons the government wants to build!

[RUEZ]

What are you guys smoking? The whole point behind being tough on crime is to ultimately reduce crime. I would think that's what everyone wants not just Conservatives.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

RUEZ wrote:

What are you guys smoking? The whole point behind being tough on crime is to ultimately reduce crime. I would think that's what everyone wants not just Conservatives.

It is what I want. I was being ironic however as certain Americans on this site(and Canadians for that matter) have praised CCW laws in the US as being the primary catalyst for the reduction in their crime rate.

I was merely referencing that our crime rate has decreased without the need for extremes like CCW laws.

[RUEZ]

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

It is what I want. I was being ironic however as certain Americans on this site(and Candians for that matter) have praised CCW laws in the US as being the primary catalyst for the reduction in their crime rate.

I was merely referencing that our crime rate has decreased without the need for extremes like CCW laws.

My comment was directed more at Andy who thinks Conservatives don't want a reduction in crime. That's as stupid as saying the Liberals want to confiscate all firearms by using the gun registry.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Fair enough

[andyt]

RUEZ wrote:

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

It is what I want. I was being ironic however as certain Americans on this site(and Candians for that matter) have praised CCW laws in the US as being the primary catalyst for the reduction in their crime rate.

I was merely referencing that our crime rate has decreased without the need for extremes like CCW laws.

My comment was directed more at Andy who thinks Conservatives don't want a reduction in crime. That's as stupid as saying the Liberals want to confiscate all firearms by using the gun registry.

conservatives thrive on fear. It's been shown time and time again. Sure your average conservative wants a reduction in crime, but he's not going to believe this report, because it conflicts with his view of the world. And the Reformacons won't like it because it cuts out a plank of their election platform - keep 'em afraid.

[RUEZ]

andyt wrote:

conservatives thrive on fear. It's been shown time and time again. Sure your average conservative wants a reduction in crime, but he's not going to believe this report, because it conflicts with his view of the world. And the Reformacons won't like it because it cuts out a plank of their election platform - keep 'em afraid.

You're talking out your ass here.

[andyt]

RUEZ wrote:

andyt wrote:

conservatives thrive on fear. It's been shown time and time again. Sure your average conservative wants a reduction in crime, but he's not going to believe this report, because it conflicts with his view of the world. And the Reformacons won't like it because it cuts out a plank of their election platform - keep 'em afraid.

You're talking out your ass here.

Me and these guys: Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

and these guys: Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientists http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/fearmongering-h/

[DrCaleb]

RUEZ wrote:

andyt wrote:

conservatives thrive on fear. It's been shown time and time again. Sure your average conservative wants a reduction in crime, but he's not going to believe this report, because it conflicts with his view of the world. And the Reformacons won't like it because it cuts out a plank of their election platform - keep 'em afraid.

You're talking out your ass here.

And it takes some skill to get proper enunciation from a sphincter like that.

Even if he's talking about Bart and OTI specifically, he's still talking out his ass.

[DrCaleb]

andyt wrote:

RUEZ wrote:

andyt wrote:

conservatives thrive on fear. It's been shown time and time again. Sure your average conservative wants a reduction in crime, but he's not going to believe this report, because it conflicts with his view of the world. And the Reformacons won't like it because it cuts out a plank of their election platform - keep 'em afraid.

You're talking out your ass here.

Me and these guys: Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

and these guys: Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientists http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/fearmongering-h/

So, how many Canadians were in those studies? How many of those were CKAers?

Comparing apples to hydrogen you are.

[andyt]

Nice weasel. Our conservatives' brains are different than English or American ones.

And I never said anything about CKA, mentioned conservatives in general. But if the shoe fits, wear it. We've certainly seen the arguments on this forum that crime is not decreasing.

[andyt]

Stephen Harper’s tough-on-crime legislation is tough on taxpayers’ pocketbooks: critics http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/stephen-harper-tough-crime-legislation-tough-taxpayers-pocketbooks-152212885.html

Quote:

Stephen Harper's tough on crime agenda is proving to be costly.
Figures in the annual Reports on Plans and Priorities of the Correctional Service of Canada, indicate Canada's federal corrections system will cost $2.98 billion in 2011-12.
That's an 80 per cent jump from fiscal year 2006-07, the year the Conservatives came into power.

[andyt]

Study: calm people are liberal, skittish are conservative http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2202/study-calm-people-are-liberal-skittish-are-conservative

Quote:

"Individuals with measurably lower physical sensitivities to sudden noises and threatening visual images were more likely to support foreign aid, liberal immigration policies, pacifism, and gun control," said the study conducted by U.S. researchers from Rice University in Texas, the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, the University of Illinois, and the Virginia Institute for Psychiatric and Behavioural Genetics.

Strong beliefs

"Individuals displaying measurably higher physiological reactions to those same stimuli were more likely to favour defence spending, capital punishment, patriotism, and the Iraq war," the authors write.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Society/Conservatives_Deconstruct.html

Quote:

The study's four authors, John T. Jost, Jack Glaser, Arie W. Kruglanski, and Frank J. Sulloway, write, "People embrace political conservatism (at least in part) because it serves to reduce fear, anxiety and uncertainty; to avoid change, disruption and ambiguity; and to explain, order and justify inequality among groups and individuals." To come to this conclusion the authors examined 88 different psychological studies conducted between 1958 and 2002 that involved 22,818 people from 12 different countries. They boiled that information down into a number of psychological attributes that are closely associated with people who are politically conservative.

Rigid and closed-minded

"Dogmatism has been found to correlate consistently with authoritarianism, political-economic conservatism, and the holding of right wing opinions," write the authors. Conversely, studies have found that conservatives in general have little tolerance for ambiguity. A fact that helps in decoding this statement that George W. Bush made in Genoa, Italy: "I know what I believe and I believe what I believe is right."