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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:16 am
 


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One things that’s easily forgotten in a media (social and otherwise) landscape that celebrates the extreme viewpoint is that Canadians are not sorting themselves into fascist and communist camps. The vast majority of conservatives are neither white supremacists not anarcho-capitalists, and the vast majority of progressives are not neo-Stalinist SJWs. If we’re settling into opposing camps, it is those who believe private enterprise is a necessary evil versus those who see government as a necessary evil. The key word in both cases is “necessary”. We are still arguing over the ratio of a mixed economy within a democratic society, and debating the amount of state intervention that should be utilized in trying to create a fair society and soften the sometimes sharp edges of a market economy. The majority of us have more in common with each other than with the fringes on either side.


Another great post. I would add that it’s the new/alternative/intern based media that highlights and caters to extremism. The traditional media sometimes does while chasing ratings especially the US and 24-hour news channels but not nearly to the same degree as online media.


I honestly believe Sanders, an honest to goodness social democrat, could have beaten Trump in the land that produced McCarthy. Hillary was the worst possible candidate to put against Trump. Because she’s Shooter McGavin (“Let’s get one thing straight, this is Shooter’s tour. I’ve worked hard my whole life, paid my dues, and now it’s Shooter’s turn.“), which allowed Trump to be Happy Gilmore (someone who wanders into golf/politics from a completely different sport). And who did people cheer for in that movie? The US presidential election was neither a victory for the right nor a loss for the left. It was the dysfunction of a cronyistic and out of touch US political system coming to a head. And when the Canadian public stop finding Trudeau’s identity politics obsession and high school cool kid act endearing, we may well end up at a similar crossroads here.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 6:41 pm
 


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One things that’s easily forgotten in a media (social and otherwise) landscape that celebrates the extreme viewpoint is that Canadians are not sorting themselves into fascist and communist camps. The vast majority of conservatives are neither white supremacists not anarcho-capitalists, and the vast majority of progressives are not neo-Stalinist SJWs. If we’re settling into opposing camps, it is those who believe private enterprise is a necessary evil versus those who see government as a necessary evil. The key word in both cases is “necessary”. We are still arguing over the ratio of a mixed economy within a democratic society, and debating the amount of state intervention that should be utilized in trying to create a fair society and soften the sometimes sharp edges of a market economy. The majority of us have more in common with each other than with the fringes on either side.


Another great post. I would add that it’s the new/alternative/intern based media that highlights and caters to extremism. The traditional media sometimes does while chasing ratings especially the US and 24-hour news channels but not nearly to the same degree as online media.


I honestly believe Sanders, an honest to goodness social democrat, could have beaten Trump in the land that produced McCarthy. Hillary was the worst possible candidate to put against Trump. Because she’s Shooter McGavin (“Let’s get one thing straight, this is Shooter’s tour. I’ve worked hard my whole life, paid my dues, and now it’s Shooter’s turn.“), which allowed Trump to be Happy Gilmore (someone who wanders into golf/politics from a completely different sport). And who did people cheer for in that movie? The US presidential election was neither a victory for the right nor a loss for the left. It was the dysfunction of a cronyistic and out of touch US political system coming to a head. And when the Canadian public stop finding Trudeau’s identity politics obsession and high school cool kid act endearing, we may well end up at a similar crossroads here.

What an outstanding analogy.


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Makes even more sense when you consider that most Trump supporters come across like they've got a six-inch nail embedded deep in their skulls. That ain't Shooter's fault either. :lol:

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Makes even more sense when you consider that most Trump supporters come across like they've got a six-inch nail embedded deep in their skulls. That ain't Shooter's fault either. :lol:

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Shooter also had a knack for insulting Happy’s fans (“Frankenstein’s fat foot”). Deplorables, anyone?


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And then of course there’s Kathleen Wynne in Ontario - “It’s still Shooter’s turn. Shooter’s not done yet.”


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And then of course there’s Kathleen Wynne in Ontario - “It’s still Shooter’s turn. Shooter’s not done yet.”


Bye Shooter!


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Shooter is now being beated to death by the mob of lowlifes after trying to steal Happy's gold jacket. :mrgreen:


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Shooter is now being beated to death by the mob of lowlifes after trying to steal Happy's gold jacket. :mrgreen:


The janitorial staff at the Toronto Star are going to be working overtime mopping up the tears and sweeping up the pulled out clumps of hair.


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The fundamental question that has been presented to voters in Canada, and on a smaller stage in Ontario is “How much arrogance, sleaze, economic mismanagement and authoritarianism are you willing to put up with to preserve activist/interventionist government?” The answer for a majority in both cases seems to be “quite a bit”.


Or to answer the question more precisely in the face of the SNC-Lavalin scandal, as much as Gerald Butts and his meat puppet can serve up.


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All they have to do is yell out "HARPER!" whenever confronted with evidence of their own corruption & arrogance and they'll get another pass from the Laurentian corridor. Ford-Nation might stymie their plans in the Ontario suburbs but urban Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa will stay steadfastly loyal as usual. Wilson-Raybould could produce recordings of her being told personally by Trudeau & Butts to lay off of being too mean to SNC or else it's curtains for her, and it wouldn't matter the slightest in those ridings. The Big Red L is their favourite racehorse of all time and they'll ride it until the rest of the country puts it out of it's misery.

"HARPER!" is also something that hasn't run past it's due-date either. Odds are that the squishes will still start quaking in terror at the mere thought of him for at least one more election cycle. Y'know, because he was a true-blue earth-raping anti-gay anti-women fascist and all that. :roll:


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All they have to do is yell out "HARPER!" whenever confronted with evidence of their own corruption & arrogance and they'll get another pass from the Laurentian corridor. Ford-Nation might stymie their plans in the Ontario suburbs but urban Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa will stay steadfastly loyal as usual. Wilson-Raybould could produce recordings of her being told personally by Trudeau & Butts to lay off of being too mean to SNC or else it's curtains for her, and it wouldn't matter the slightest in those ridings. The Big Red L is their favourite racehorse of all time and they'll ride it until the rest of the country puts it out of it's misery.

"HARPER!" is also something that hasn't run past it's due-date either. Odds are that the squishes will still start quaking in terror at the mere thought of him for at least one more election cycle. Y'know, because he was a true-blue earth-raping anti-gay anti-women fascist and all that. :roll:


To my original point in this thread, the only way the Conservatives can overcome this is to abandon the idea of shrinking the welfare state, which Canadians are strongly attached to, and focus on dismantling the social engineering state instead, while also providing sound fiscal management and ethical administration. Be the adults in the room as always, but a little less stern.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:49 pm
 


Butts is gone! Now let’s see how Pinocchio gets along without the guy holding the strings.


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