[Macguyver]

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/30/john-ivison-csis-right-to-worry-about-chinese-spies/

Quote:

Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) director Richard Fadden was right all along. According to a former Chinese spy speaking to a security conference Wednesday, the Ministry of State Security has long targeted foreign politicians. Li Fengzhi, who defected in 2003, told the conference in Gatineau that China wants to steal commercial secrets and influence politicians. “China wants to find some important, influential people to speak out for China. They pay attention to this,” he said.

Mr. Fadden got into hot water last year when he said municipal officials and provincial Cabinet ministers from two provinces were under the influence of the Chinese government. He backed off from his comments after loud criticism from Chinese-Canadian groups.

Mr. Li was asked if he thought the recent incident involving Tory MP Bob Deckert was a case of espionage. “I’m not sure if she [Xinhua news agency correspondent Shi Rong] is an informant of the Chinese secret service but…they often use reporters as cover,” he said. The parliamentary secretary to the Foreign Affairs Minister admitted sending “flirtatious” emails to the journalist.

While China is preoccupied with organizations that might foster internal dissent such as Falun Gong and the Free Tibet movement, Mr. Li made clear that the tentacles of its secret services reach far into civil society — from academia to non-governmental organizations. “China is interested in anything, everything that China is not very good at, either military or civilian,” he said.

Don't worry you're pretty little heads, none of our conservative leaders would be stupid enough to fall for the oldest trick in the book.

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/post1832374#p1832374

Oh wait, one of them already did. Now lets close our eyes and plug our ears and pretend we didn't see it like a bunch of fucking dummies.

[Macguyver]

And in other news, the Chinese hack Bay Street in attempt to push through Potach Corp hostile takeover.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/foreign-hackers-targeted-canadian-firms-012336728.html

Quote:

A leading cyber-crime expert says foreign hackers who launched a massive attack on Canadian government computers last fall also broke into the data systems of prominent Bay Street law firms and other companies to get insider information on an attempted $38-billion corporate takeover.

Daniel Tobok, whose international cyber-sleuthing company was called in by a number of the firms hit by the attacks, says the hacking spree from computers in China were all connected to last year's ultimately unsuccessful takeover bid for Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan.

Gunnair wrote:

Unsound wrote:

This is the second fairly major security breach by this government. Not a pattern I like to see.

Swapped some syrupy emails with a Chinese reporter.

Dumb yes.

Massive security breach? Please explain.

Eh Gunny, bet you still think that Chinese reporter and the old wrinkly Conservative MP's love affair was all just "dumb" and had nothing to to with any of this.

[stokes]

Dont take this the wrong way McGuyver but you are a troll...there is no need to bring up a previous post and slam another member based on new information without giving him the chance to respond or change his mind.

I am beginning to like you less and less

[andyt]

stokes wrote:

Dont take this the wrong way McGuyver but you are a troll...there is no need to bring up a previous post and slam another member based on new information without giving him the chance to respond or change his mind.

I am beginning to like you less and less

How does Gunnair not have a chance to respond?

[stokes]

Andy

Mcguyver used a quote from a previous thread to throw new information back in Gunairs face. I have an issue with this because at the time of the previous statement Gunnair made a comment based on the information he had at the time. As far as I am concerned McGuyver did not do this to spark a debate with another member but instead played silly games when new information came to light, also he did not do this by commenting in the original thread but starting a whole new thread.

I am not saying I agree or disagree with Gunnair I just think Mcguyver should used a little more etiquette and let the discussion develop on its own without an attack on another member of our site.

just my honest opinion

[raydan]

Like a little kid going "na na-na na-na-na", then sticking out his tongue.

[andyt]

OK. But I'm sure Gunnair will respond when he reads this post, and he's not exactly Mr Etiquette himself. Compared to what else goes on here, I don't think McG committed such a grave sin.

[Macguyver]

stokes wrote:

Dont take this the wrong way McGuyver but you are a troll...there is no need to bring up a previous post and slam another member based on new information without giving him the chance to respond or change his mind.

I am beginning to like you less and less

Did you know all of the information available to us today is a product of compounding historical information leading back to the beginnings of human interaction and communication itself?

We don't wake up every day with our memories erased and have to sort thing out again. Knowledge is accumulated over time.

In this case Gunny said that the Chinese reporter was just a "dumb" mistake. That is knowledge that my mind has retained, and when I saw the article about the Chinese hacking computers to try to get the upper hand in one of our most important resources, I am forced to remind Gunny that his harmless Chinese honeypot could have cost this country Billions and Billions of dollars.

Now you may feel an obligation to protect MP's you like because of the party that they work for. I prefer to think of Canada as a collection of like minded people with the same goals in mind. When one of these like minded people puts his penis before the good of the country I'm likely to call him on it. When one of the members of CKA sticks up for a guy who could cost us Billions because of his Asian girl fetish, then I'm going to call him on it too.

It is nothing personal, and don't take this the wrong way, but I have no idea who you are, I can't say whether I like you or not because I don't care enough about you to form an opinion about you. So hate me all you want, who ever you are. I'm just trying to show you that being an MP and fooling around with a Chinese reporter is beyond dumb. It is idiocy.

But hey, I'm cool being a white guy in the next Chinese province called Canada. Obviously you are too because you're good with our MP's sleeping with their "reporters".

[Dragon-Dancer]

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.

[raydan]

Does this even prove that Xinhua news agency correspondent Shi Rong is/was a spy?

[andyt]

raydan wrote:

Does this even prove that Xinhua news agency correspondent Shi Rong is/was a spy?

Nope. So unless that's proven, you're OK with what that numbnuts did? No worries?

[raydan]

What did numbnuts do?

[andyt]

If you don't know, why are you in this discussion? It's recapped in the OP.

[raydan]

The parliamentary secretary to the Foreign Affairs Minister admitted sending “flirtatious” emails to the journalist.

No government secrets? We don't know for sure if she is a spy?
Has he been charged with anything? Has she?

So I'll change my question... what did numbnuts do wrong?

[stokes]

If he wants to get it on with a reporter I dont see an issue with it as different men have diffrent tastes. I would have an issue if he was giving out national secrets, and call me biased but I think the only reason why this became publicly known is because he wouldnt tell her anything after she spread her legs.

And a country/ groups have been using sex to get secrets for hundreds of years...sometimes it works....sometimes it doesnt