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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:01 pm
 


http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20 ... ng-110920/ OTTAWA — The Harper government is paying a high-powered management consultant firm almost $90,000 a day for advice on how to save money.

Deloitte Inc. was hired on Aug. 15 on a $19.8-million contract to advise the federal cabinet and senior officials on finding enough savings to balance the books by 2014.

The contract, which runs until March 31, is to advise "senior and elected officials on public and private sector best practices in improving productivity and achieving operational efficiencies." There is also an option for a one-year extension.

The federal government invited a select group of 20 "pre-qualified" firms to bid on the work on July 11, rather than use a fully open tendering process. Documents describing the work required were supplied directly to the invited bidders, rather than posted on a tendering website for anyone to see.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the so-called "statement of work" under the Access to Information Act.

Deloitte will advise the government on the Strategic and Operating Review, a year-long exercise announced in the March 22 budget that will eventually trim $4 billion from $80 billion in annual program spending.

Tony Clement, Treasury Board president, has asked 67 departments and agencies to submit two scenarios this fall, one with cuts of five per cent, another with cuts of 10 per cent.

A nine-person committee headed by Clement will vet the proposals, and the results will become part of Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's spring budget. Clement has said that transfer payments to individuals and the provinces will not be touched.

To date, the government has provided only minimal information about the timelines and process.

Deloitte's final reports are due to be delivered in February next year, suggesting the spring budget is to be released in March, the traditional time frame.

The firm provided training sessions for officials over the last month, as well as management tools to help the committee review the spending-cut proposals expected in October from more than five dozen departments and agencies.

The contract also calls for advice on consolidating the government's far-flung data centres, a centrepiece of the current belt-tightening exercise.

The government has already paid PriceWaterhouseCoopers a $2.5-million fee for advice on how to reduce 308 data centres to about 20.

Deloitte must also provide an information specialist to advise on "disposing of information," and "co-ordinating Access to Information and Privacy Act requirements." The expert will also be "responsible for the efficient and systematic control of the creation, receipt, maintenance, use and disposition of records."

A spokeswoman for Clement defended the contract, saying Ottawa needs the best advice available for reducing costs.

"Engaging private sector advisers who have been successful with cost-saving operational reviews will better enable ministers and deputy heads not only to compile their individual cost-savings proposals but also to provide practical advice on what to look for and how to execute their plans," press secretary Heather Hume said in an email.

"As always, our government is committed to maintaining an open, fair and transparent procurement process while obtaining the best possible value for Canadians."

Hume declined to respond to further questions about the review, saying they are "cabinet processes."

Other firms invited to bid on the $20-million contract included Ernst & Young, IBM Canada, Bell Canada and Accenture Inc.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:12 pm
 


Hey, that's great idea! :roll:

Yep, someone didn't do a media litmus test first.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:13 pm
 


$90,000 per day sounds so much better than a 19 million contract.


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If it helps to trim 4 billion from the budget, it's worth it. If it's good advice and the cuts make sense.


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lets start by cutting out the outside contracts and start looking at our own civil servants for ideas on how to trim extras. I can't believe that in a bloated bureacracy like the one that exists in Ottawa there can't be a few people, already on the dime, that have a few good ideas. Promise them job security if they come up with cost cutting ideas that are practical.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:57 am
 


andyt wrote:
If it helps to trim 4 billion from the budget, it's worth it. If it's good advice and the cuts make sense.


But why let that stand in the way of people trying to make a statement?

If they didn't hire someone outside the government, they'd be accused of "not getting input" and not being "impartial" on things that should be cut.

More political games.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:29 am
 


andyt wrote:
If it helps to trim 4 billion from the budget, it's worth it. If it's good advice and the cuts make sense.


R=UP

I agree.

Even if they figure out how to cut only $100 million, it's still a deal.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:37 am
 


The problem is that these accounting guys have worked in a competitive industry all their lives. They understand quarterly earnings, profit, all that stuff. There's no profit in the government. You can't measure success by how much money you make in a quarter. The measures of success are much more complex.

The inevitable outcome of this is that, despite the best effort of high-paid management consultants, they put forth a bunch of unrealistic recommendations--recommendations that might work in industry--but will just sit on a shelf in someone's office six months after the report is released.


Access to information? Affordable access to gov't information is enshrined in law. Deloitte can't change the law. Government tendencies--in particular this government-- is to, by default, hide all information from prying eyes. Deloitte can't fix that. Government records keeping and information systems are antiquated because those positions were axed eons ago. Deloitte isn't about to recommend a multimillion dollar project to upgrade IS.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:18 am
 


Zipperfish wrote:
The problem is that these accounting guys have worked in a competitive industry all their lives. They understand quarterly earnings, profit, all that stuff. There's no profit in the government. You can't measure success by how much money you make in a quarter. The measures of success are much more complex.

The inevitable outcome of this is that, despite the best effort of high-paid management consultants, they put forth a bunch of unrealistic recommendations--recommendations that might work in industry--but will just sit on a shelf in someone's office six months after the report is released.


Access to information? Affordable access to gov't information is enshrined in law. Deloitte can't change the law. Government tendencies--in particular this government-- is to, by default, hide all information from prying eyes. Deloitte can't fix that. Government records keeping and information systems are antiquated because those positions were axed eons ago. Deloitte isn't about to recommend a multimillion dollar project to upgrade IS.


I was thinking the same thing, which is why I said if the cuts they suggest make sense. They should have some sort of deal that at lest some of the fee is paid ony if the recommendations are accepted.

Of course the govt should always be looking for efficiencies in house. But it seems to me that having some outsiders take a look once in a while is also worthwhile. Gotta admit tho, I'd be a lot happier about this if it was the NDP hiring these guys.


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