[grainfedprairieboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

it will save lives Right,..
,
Like voting Liberal yields better government

[grainfedprairieboy]

There is no doubt Western Civilisation is in transition and that at this point it is definately in decline. Liberals are confident that they can pull us from the abyss with just a few minor adjustments here and there but if the education system has taught us anything it is that endless tinkering with a system that does not work and outright refusal to return to what does is just a recipe for failure.

Post Canada is not a pretty place.

[BartSimpson]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

There is no doubt Western Civilisation is in transition and that at this point it is definately in decline. Liberals are confident that they can pull us from the abyss with just a few minor adjustments here and there but if the education system has taught us anything it is that endless tinkering with a system that does not work and outright refusal to return to what does is just a recipe for failure.

Post Canada is not a pretty place.

I'm not quite sure how civilization will benefit from promulgating liberal "values" in society. And, frankly, I wish the liberals (small 'l' which means this IS a sweeping blanket statement ) would stop lying to us that their conversion of our societies into some strange hybrid of a gray, Maoist superstate with an aura of bacchanalia in our schools and homes is supposed to be an improvement.

[grainfedprairieboy]

The problem is they really feel they are doing the right thing and since the lefties go into politics or journalism while the right goes into business, they control our direction.

Using the education system as an example, we had a functioning system that achieved its goal and the end product was considered acceptable. Thinking we could improve it with a kindler gentler system it was radically overhauled in the 60s. It has never worked since and each tweak makes it worse with high school graduates today wholly out of place with their pre 60s counterparts. In fact, I understand that several years of University are required just to bring them to the same level as their parents and grandparents.

No fault divorce did not improve the conditions of families but rather worsened them.

Governments taking the place of churches and other social agencies did not eradicate poverty but rather increased it.

Ignoring crime and/or softening punishment did not make it disappear but rather increased it.

No abortion laws lead to sex selection and abortion as a method of birth control.

I could go on and on.

We had a very effective gun control system in place at one time. The current system is now part of the problem rather then part of the solution.

To quote George Orwell: "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of our freedom. It is our job to see that it stays there."

It is the Liberals job to see that it does not stay on the wall as that rifle is anathematic to the left wing ideology that freedom is bestowed and protected by the state and the individual must be subservient.

[BartSimpson]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

the left wing ideology that freedom is bestowed and protected by the state and the individual must be subservient.

Thus the new wrinkle in leftist rhetoric is to equate individualism with hate and narrow-mindedness.

I equate that with a call to arms.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

fifeboy fifeboy:

ridenrain ridenrain:

it will save lives Right,..
Like prohibition prevented drinking,
Like legalizing prostitution will stop sexual assaults,
Like voting Liberal yields better government

Hey dude, check it
out. Harper is the government now and anything that happens in regards to gun control is not the fault of the liberals, it now "gun control, Harper style." Except he does not have the balls to stand up to the discrepancy between his hard line and public opinion, like we have seen on the environment.

We've had handgun control in Canada since Christ was a cowboy, and we have drug related shootouts almost every night in Vancouver.

More effective punishment does work but you Liberals won't even let us change you're wimpy appointed judges.

Change Judges????. Thats not how it works! Is that what you want? Every time there is a government changes the whole court system is changed????? Harper is in charge now, he gets to appoint judges, as long as he stays in power and with our system that could be when he dies of old age at age 87! If you want the gun laws to change, write to your buddy harper and get him to change them, he is the P.M! If you want harsher judges, ask him again.Or move to Iran or China, I hear their courts would suit you fine. Just quit blaming the Liberals for what you don't like. However, I don't think Harper will do anyhing about gun control because he does not have the balls to stand up to public opinion, as he has shown on his flip-flop on the environment and global warming.. Judges, he gets to appoint them one at a time and that will give him a bye on that.

[ridenrain]

You've not addressed the FAC T that there has been s a steady increace in gun crimes in Vancouver, and most other large cities, even with the gun registry. Did you seriously imagine that, had Paul Martin won the election and banned all handguns like he said, that gun violence would evaporate overnight?

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

You've not addressed the FAC T

To whom is this addressed?

[toothpick]

The money spent on gun control in this country would be better spent on providing psychatric help for Canadians.

When people learn how to deal with and control thier emotions they will be less likely to 'snap' and hurt or kill other people.
When people who have psycheatric disorders get the help they need they will be less likely to inadvertantly hurt others or themselves.
When people who need medications can afford those medicatios, they and everyone dealing with them will be better off.

Instead of spending money taking away people's property with dubious results, let's spend money on something we know does produce results.

Well adjusted people don't commit violence no matter how many or what type of guns they have.

[ridenrain]

fifeboy fifeboy:

ridenrain ridenrain:

You've not addressed the FAC T

To whom is this addressed?

To the people who voted that gun control is saving lives.

[sasquatch2]

It seems that the LIBRANOs have somewhat successfully embedded in the public mind the notion that self defence is a criminal offence---"taking the law into your own hands.

911 = dial a prayer

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

[Wally_Sconce]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

It seems that the LIBRANOs have somewhat successfully embedded in the public mind the notion that self defence is a criminal offence---"taking the law into your own hands.

911 = dial a prayer

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

That kind of Liberal mentality sickens me.

Self defense is a natural right. And, what I mean by that is:

It is completely natural to use any means of self defense, there isn't a law around that will stop a person from fighting for their life.

[grainfedprairieboy]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

there isn't a law around that will stop a person from fighting for their life.

There may not be a law but there surely is an ideology that turns you into a coward at the first sign of violence and it is called "liberalism".

[Wally_Sconce]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

there isn't a law around that will stop a person from fighting for their life.

There may not be a law but there surely is an ideology that turns you into a coward at the first sign of violence and it is called "liberalism".

It's one thing to cower, if you experience some handgun violence in Toronto first hand, but it takes a special kind of idiot to stand up and point the blame at law abiding firearms owners across the nation. Like how ignorant is that, eh?

[sasquatch2]

$1:

Aging_Redneck
It's one thing to cower, if you experience some handgun violence in Toronto first hand, but it takes a special kind of idiot to stand up and point the blame at law abiding firearms owners across the nation. Like how ignorant is that, eh

It's easy if your goal is UN world government, and you fear an armed revolt to their agenda of which KYOTO is the thin edge of the wedge.