[PENATRATOR]

DerbyX wrote:

PENATRATOR wrote:

Kinda like your thoughts on Islam ad nauseum regarding the Afghan conflict?

Practice what you preach

Considering you belong to the same set of people trying to force your beliefs on others and the same set of people decrying the Talibans treatment of people who then throw their hands up in the air and claim "matters of Afghan internal affairs" when it turns out our allies are doing the same despicable things I'd say you need to listen to your own advice sunshine.

That and don't go off-topic again.

Still using homo phrases to address males huh? No surprise. Unlike yourself I don't force beliefs on anybody dip shit, just speak of WHAT I HAVE WITNESSED. How about you? Other than being a useless dope smoker, ever seen anything?

[DerbyX]

PENATRATOR wrote:

Still using homo phrases to address males huh? No surprise. Unlike yourself I don't force beliefs on anybody dip shit, just speak of WHAT I HAVE WITNESSED. How about you? Other than being a useless dope smoker, ever seen anything?

Homo phrases?

Says it all pretty much about your mentality or as another military member here summed you up "the sterotypical dumb grunt".

Tell you what sunshine. When you are responsible for the accurate diagnosis of any type of human sample you can think of to help diagnose the health of people like I am then you can comment on my usefulness.

Till then stay back in the peanut gallery where you belong.

'Kay?

[ASLplease]

DerbyX wrote:

ASLplease wrote:

tobacco is actually addictive.

Yes, so? So is caffeine. In fact addictions have a genetic component as well and people can become addictive to the point that it badly affects their life over things like exercise, sex, adrenaline sports, etc.

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

Dude, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CAFIENE!!!

My eyes always look like this:

[ASLplease]

DerbyX wrote:

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

You don't like most illegal activities. Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

So where do you drawn the line?

[Mr_Canada]

ASLplease wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

You don't like most illegal activities. Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

So where do you drawn the line?

You draw the line between whether it's a personal choice or not.

Since it is, it should be legal.

Who are you to declare what one person should or should not do when it has absolutely zero effect on you as a human being?

Many laws are severely unjustified and unconstitutional. My opinion on law is that if an action is committed and all parties involved agreed for it to happen including the supposed victims, then any action should be legal.

As soon as someone says no and their rights are violated, then I believe justice is needed.

[Zipperfish]

ASLplease wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

You don't like most illegal activities. Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

So where do you drawn the line?

Risk. In a free country, individuals should be able to choose to undertake individual risks, such as mountain climbing, boxing, unprotected sex with multiple partners, etc. You draw the line when the issue no longer becomes an individual risk so much as a social risk--in other words the behaviour results in significant harm to society.

Rights. In a free country, we have certain rights, and all activities are legal unless explicitly deemed illegal. That used to be the way it is, but I think we've seen a shift in these days of Big Government, and now everything seems illegal unless explicitly allowed by law.

Democracy. This is the killer for pot. Most people just don't care enough about this issue to vote for it. It was made illegal a long time ago, and unless you can get a majority of people to actively advocate for its legalization, it will remain banned.

Morality. Canada is based on the Christian ethic. Basically, the historical Christian ethos is that anything fun is suspect in their god's eyes. Recreational drug use is anathema to puritans. So is rock n roll and sex.

[DerbyX]

ASLplease wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

You don't like most illegal activities. Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

So where do you drawn the line?

Well for one its impact on others is the key. I draw the line at choices the person is making with regards to themselves. That's not quite the same as saying "you don't like murder, fine don't do it but let me do what I want".

You hold a similar belief over guns right in that you complain other people who don't like guns are affecting your choice to have them, a position I hold as well.

I see no difference.

[Mr_Canada]

ASLplease wrote:

DerbyX wrote:

ASLplease wrote:

tobacco is actually addictive.

Yes, so? So is caffeine. In fact addictions have a genetic component as well and people can become addictive to the point that it badly affects their life over things like exercise, sex, adrenaline sports, etc.

Tell you what. You don't like pot? Well that's OK. Nobody is forcing you to do it but we'd really appreciate it if you didn't try and force your beliefs on others.

Dude, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CAFIENE!!!

My eyes always look like this:

It kills roughly 3000 Americans a year.

But again, not a single THC-caused fatality.

[ASLplease]

But again, not a single THC-caused fatality.[/quote]

Not true. COPD is the fourth leading cause of death from a chronic disease. didn't you look it up the last time I mentioned it?

[DerbyX]

ASLplease wrote:

Not true. COPD is the fourth leading cause of death from a chronic disease. didn't you look it up the last time I mentioned it?

I think you might find that MJ is far down on the list of causes of COPD. Of more concern is tobacco smoke and airborne pollutants.

[Mr_Canada]

ASLplease wrote:

Quote:

But again, not a single THC-caused fatality.

Not true. COPD is the fourth leading cause of death from a chronic disease. didn't you look it up the last time I mentioned it?

Nope, My statement is completely correct still. As I explained to you before, devices like a Vaporizer generally removes the risk of smoking, giving you almost 100% THC.

COPD is not caused by THC, but by the act of smoking. If you smoke maple leaves all your life, you'll get lung problems.

Marijuana does not kill.

[ASLplease]

maybe, but i thought that thousands of responsible non smoking , non drinking, well educated, non-polutiing pot smokers out there. Certainly they have no other thing to blame their COPD on.

BTW, COPD is so poorly misdiagnosed in it's early stages that by the time it is diagnosed, many patients would have already grown up and stopped smoking dope. there's more insurance pay outs if you can blame it on your workplace.

[ASLplease]

Mr_Canada wrote:

ASLplease wrote:

Quote:

But again, not a single THC-caused fatality.

Not true. COPD is the fourth leading cause of death from a chronic disease. didn't you look it up the last time I mentioned it?

Nope, My statement is completely correct still. As I explained to you before, devices like a Vaporizer generally removes the risk of smoking, giving you almost 100% THC.

COPD is not caused by THC, but by the act of smoking. If you smoke maple leaves all your life, you'll get lung problems.

Marijuana does not kill.

vaporizers are cost prohibitive. and they still dont fit into the pot head sub culture.

[DerbyX]

ASLplease wrote:

maybe, but i thought that thousands of responsible non smoking , non drinking, well educated, non-polutiing pot smokers out there. Certainly they have no other thing to blame their COPD on.

BTW, COPD is so poorly misdiagnosed in it's early stages that by the time it is diagnosed, many patients would have already grown up and stopped smoking dope. there's more insurance pay outs if you can blame it on your workplace.

Yes they do. I just said airborne pollutants.

[Mr_Canada]

ASLplease wrote:

maybe, but i thought that thousands of responsible non smoking , non drinking, well educated, non-polutiing pot smokers out there. Certainly they have no other thing to blame their COPD on.

BTW, COPD is so poorly misdiagnosed in it's early stages that by the time it is diagnosed, many patients would have already grown up and stopped smoking dope. there's more insurance pay outs if you can blame it on your workplace.

Blame their method of THC consumption.

Costly, yes. Fits into the subculture? You have as much insight into the marijuana culture as a cop does.

Here's what I know. The chemicals nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, etc. are Poisons that will kill you. THC does not.

Which means that you can smoke pot healthy, but you can never smoke a cigarette that's healthy, you can never have a cup of coffee that's healthy, you can never have a shot of whiskey that is healthy. But you can choose a healthy path with marijuana.

It's as harmful as chocolate.