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QuebecSpock
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Posts: 472
 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:08 pm
Quote: Harper questions 'legitimacy' of same-sex bill CBC News Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says the government's same-sex legislation will make it through the House of Commons only because of support from the Bloc Quebecois, and that, says Harper, means the legislation "lacks legitimacy." http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50627.htmlWhen it's time for a confidence vote, the Bloc is legitimate...
When it's time to vote on same sex marriage, the Bloc now is illegitimate...
According to Harper, the opinion of half the Quebecers doesn't count. And after, he ask himself why he is not popular in Quebec...
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usababe
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Posts: 887
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:10 pm
politics blows.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10908
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:12 pm
QuebecSpock wrote: Quote: Harper questions 'legitimacy' of same-sex bill CBC News Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says the government's same-sex legislation will make it through the House of Commons only because of support from the Bloc Quebecois, and that, says Harper, means the legislation "lacks legitimacy." http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50627.htmlWhen it's time for a confidence vote, the Bloc is legitimate... When it's time to vote on same sex marriage, the Bloc now is illegitimate... According to Harper, the opinion of half the Quebecers doesn't count. And after, he ask himself why he is not popular in Quebec... The Bloc don't care about canada, they will wish this on us(all day) then it make a easier fight to get out of Canada.
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Hester
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Posts: 6234
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:12 pm
usababe wrote: politics blows.
and is as variable, and as reliable, as the wind.
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QuebecSpock
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Posts: 472
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:25 pm
hwacker wrote:
The Bloc don't care about canada, they will wish this on us(all day) then it make a easier fight to get out of Canada.
The bloc is only respecting its electoral program. It was clear before the beginning of the 2004 campaign that the bloc was FOR same sex marriage. I agreed with them on this, I voted for them, now they do the job. Democracy, that's it.
Actually, 3 or 4 Bloc MPs will vote against the law...
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Posts: 3375
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:34 pm
Instead of criticizing Harper, do ask how come Duceppe and his gang decide to vote in favour of the legislation !!!
It has nothing to do with protecting Quebec's interest.
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Posts: 3375
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:46 pm
This along with many other reasons for me to despise the Bloc even more.
Duceppe is a complete imbecile.
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QuebecSpock
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Posts: 472
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:17 pm
Sabre wrote: Instead of criticizing Harper, do ask how come Duceppe and his gang decide to vote in favour of the legislation !!!
It has nothing to do with protecting Quebec's interest.
It is not Quebec's interest, it's rather what typical bloc voters (like me) want as a Canadian citizen (Quebec is still a Canadian province as far as I know...). If the Bloc had been against same sex marriage, I don't know for who I would have voted... Probably for them, but with much less conviction ("en me pincant le nez"!). Or maybe NDP or Green Party...
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hwacker
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Posts: 10908
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:20 pm
QuebecSpock wrote: Sabre wrote: Instead of criticizing Harper, do ask how come Duceppe and his gang decide to vote in favour of the legislation !!!
It has nothing to do with protecting Quebec's interest. It is not Quebec's interest, it's rather what typical bloc voters (like me) want as a Canadian citizen (Quebec is still a Canadian province as far as I know...). If the Bloc had been against same sex marriage, I don't know for who I would have voted... Probably for them, but with much less conviction. Or maybe NDP or Green Party... You guys don't have the balls or the money to do what Alberta is going to do.
Second place always
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QuebecSpock
Active Member
Posts: 472
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:22 pm
hwacker wrote:
You guys don't have the balls or the money to do what Alberta is going to do.
Second place always
No argument? 
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Posts: 3375
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:31 pm
QuebecSpock wrote:
The bloc is only respecting its electoral program. It was clear before the beginning of the 2004 campaign that the bloc was FOR same sex marriage. I agreed with them on this, I voted for them, now they do the job. Democracy, that's it.
Not to sound ignorant but... I never heard that issue being brought to the forefront during the campaign. I am really not trying to flame here or go to a personal issue against you. The fact is that I only despise the PQ and Bloc. QuebecSpock wrote: Actually, 3 or 4 Bloc MPs will vote against the law...
Maybe a good thing there
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Sharkull
Active Member
Posts: 228
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:33 pm
I have to say that I (as a CPC supporter) am a little disappointed that Harper is playing the separatist card on this one... it really is lame. People in Quebec voted for Bloc MP's and those Canadians deserve their voice in parliament too. I abhor what the BQ platform includes, but on this one it looks like they are just representing their riding as any MP should.
Note: I saw a story on the news tonight that has 7 BQ MP's voting against the legislation (with the rest of the BQ voting for it)... so this is obviously not a whipped separatist party vote, it is a group of individual MP's (some of which just happen to be BQ) voting a certain way.
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Bigboy
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Posts: 500
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:39 pm
Sabre wrote: QuebecSpock wrote:
The bloc is only respecting its electoral program. It was clear before the beginning of the 2004 campaign that the bloc was FOR same sex marriage. I agreed with them on this, I voted for them, now they do the job. Democracy, that's it.
Not to sound ignorant but... I never heard that issue being brought to the forefront during the campaign. I am really not trying to flame here or go to a personal issue against you. The fact is that I only despise the PQ and Bloc. QuebecSpock wrote: Actually, 3 or 4 Bloc MPs will vote against the law... Maybe a good thing there I've been hearing for awhile they are for it, so not suprised (Bloc i mean) But for some reason i follow canadian politics
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Posts: 3375
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:48 pm
Bigboy wrote: But for some reason i follow canadian politics
As though you should and keep doing it lol !!!
Around here, we get mostly Quebec politics. When we get Canadian politics, it's not always good
(Do you see where I am going with this?)
That's maybe why I do not listen to the French Canadian media as much. They have a certain way to make some look good (the ones they choose to mention)
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Bigboy
Forum Junkie
Posts: 500
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:51 pm
Sabre wrote: Bigboy wrote: But for some reason i follow canadian politics As though you should and keep doing it lol !!! Around here, we get mostly Quebec politics. When we get Canadian politics, it's not always good (Do you see where I am going with this?) That's maybe why I do not listen to the French Canadian media as much. They have a certain way to make some look good (the ones they choose to mention) Yeah i'm from BC and they would mention Bloc is for it, and alot of people in Quebec and if you watch CPAC, which i usually watch at night if i have trouble going to sleep
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