[TattoodGirl]

ManifestDestiny wrote:

And I will tell you one thing for sure My personal healthcare insurance, which I happily pay for which covers one hundred percent of medical costs for me and my family gives me better healthcare than yours!

When does the 100% kick it? How much deductible do you pay first? and how much is that monthly bill anyway?

Im 100% covered as well but i dont have to spend a deductible on anything before that kicks in.

[TattoodGirl]

ManifestDestiny wrote:

22 months for a MRI?

One case....hmmm lets see 4 clients of mine...MRI's done in 4 weeks, My own MRI's, yes I have had 3....max wait time 6 weeks for non life threatening.

[tritium]

That article is total hogwash!!

If you are are Medicaid or Medicare you have longer waits in the USA for health services than Canadians.

But if you have private health coverage at $130/MO and of course pay a co-pay of $30 every doctor visit or $3000 deductable for an operation, that is if your insurance approves the operation or just doesn't drop your ass if they see your going to become a liability.

Canada's health system with all it problems, is still a far cry better than the USA's system.

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl wrote:

ManifestDestiny wrote:

22 months for a MRI?

One case....hmmm lets see 4 clients of mine...MRI's done in 4 weeks, My own MRI's, yes I have had 3....max wait time 6 weeks for non life threatening.

Shame on you. Don't confues him with facts.

Next thing you knwo is he might try and say the NFL is bette rthen the CFL.

[TattoodGirl]

DerbyX wrote:

TattoodGirl wrote:

ManifestDestiny wrote:

22 months for a MRI?

One case....hmmm lets see 4 clients of mine...MRI's done in 4 weeks, My own MRI's, yes I have had 3....max wait time 6 weeks for non life threatening.

Shame on you. Don't confues him with facts.

Next thing you knwo is he might try and say the NFL is bette rthen the CFL.

Then he would be praying he had our healthcare if he said that

[TattoodGirl]

tritium wrote:

That article is total hogwash!!

If you are are Medicaid or Medicare you have longer waits in the USA for health services than Canadians.

But if you have private health coverage at $130/MO and of course pay a co-pay of $30 every doctor visit or $3000 deductable for an operation, that is if your insurance approves the operation or just doesn't drop your ass if they see your going to become a liability.

Canada's health system with all it problems, is still a far cry better than the USA's system.

Exactly!!!

[Mr_Canada]

[Mr_Canada]

Bacardi4206 wrote:

Nobody had a perfect Health Care system, certonly not Canada's but if I had to compare it with America's. I would go with Canada's, our wait time has to due with the fact of our low employment regarding doctors and nurses. Not too many people want to be doctors or nurses now a days apparently.

Many doctors, like dentists have to compile many patients on there list for care. However because its Canadian health care and not American. More people will be-able to get treated, while nobody is denied so the hospitals are over-runned by people who need medical care no matter what that is, because its praticly free as they are covered.

Americans health care system is more of a market, or a corporation then a utility used to help the citizens in the country. If you got the money for the treatments, then you are one of the lucky ones. If you do not, then I am sorry Mr. American Citizen but you may not recieve health care. Russian Roulette anybody?

Canada's tax's are high, but with our tax's we can benefit off of all the safety nets it provides us as a Citizen. Safety nets that Americans want, but they would rather choose there expensive cars, houses and luxaries over it and pray to god they do not get sick other-wise they would have to sacrafice those luxaries just to pay there medical bills. What a great system you got MD, truely I am impressed.

Why is it you think that the entire world operates on a Universal Health care system, while only America does not? Even the most poorest countries, and corrupt have a Universal Health care system and there citizens live longer then yours, babies are born more healthier then yours. People get treated better then yours. Truely is sad but hey, why focus on improving your entire crappy health care system when you can just make a failed attempt to compare it to Canada's, by some slim chance that you make it sound better then Canada's. Hell there's a achievment by itself right? Look at America, we made our healthcare system sound more legit then Canada's!! Everybody bow down to our health care might!.

Canada obviously needs to improve its health care system, as it is not perfect. However America's is so far from perfect, that you need to just scrap the entire thing and start fresh with a entirely new idea. Unless of course, your patriotism side wishes to deny your health care is the most crappiest in the world? Besides for the most high-tech medical equipment that is only used upon a certon percent of your population, all more on the rich side then the poor side.

Very good! I agree!

[Bruce_the_vii]

I think the point is simple enough, America doesn't have a comprehensive health insurance program. The statistics are complex but here's one:

15.8% (47 million) were uninsured in 2006. The number of chronically uninsured (uninsured all year) was estimated at between 21 and 31 million in 1998.

[ManifestDestiny]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

I think the point is simple enough, America doesn't have a comprehensive health insurance program. The statistics are complex but here's one:

15.8% (47 million) were uninsured in 2006. The number of chronically uninsured (uninsured all year) was estimated at between 21 and 31 million in 1998.

The true extent of the uninsured “crisis?” The Kaiser Family Foundation, a liberal non-profit frequently quoted by the media, puts the number of uninsured Americans who do not qualify for current government programs and make less than $50,000 a year between 13.9 million and 8.2 million. That is a much smaller figure than the media report.
Kaiser’s 8.2 million figure for the chronically uninsured only includes those uninsured for two years or more. It is also worth noting, that, 45 percent of uninsured people will be uninsured for less than four months according to the Congressional Budget Office.

[ManifestDestiny]

TattoodGirl wrote:

ManifestDestiny wrote:

And I will tell you one thing for sure My personal healthcare insurance, which I happily pay for which covers one hundred percent of medical costs for me and my family gives me better healthcare than yours!

When does the 100% kick it? How much deductible do you pay first? and how much is that monthly bill anyway?

Im 100% covered as well but i dont have to spend a deductible on anything before that kicks in.

My co pay is 10 dollars. which I gladly pay. dont you relize it stops people from coming in with stubed toe.

[Brenda]

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Canada's tax's are high,

Compared to the US, probably. But compared to where I come from, Canada is tax heaven

Higher taxes means more social security. I am glad Canada is so smart to make people work for a decent living, and not sit on their asses for decent living. If you want a car, work for it, don't expect to get it from the government. (welfare in Holland pays more then a job at McD's...And you can stay on it for years...)

I do think however, that Canada needs more doctors and nurses. I always get to hear nurses are payd so little, but a friend of mine just immigrated to Regina, and he starts (as an RN) at $ 36/hr. I didn't think that was that bad?

[TattoodGirl]

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My co pay is 10 dollars. which I gladly pay. dont you relize it stops people from coming in with stubed toe.

And at what point do you top off and how much do you pay monthly. Co-pay is the minor expense, its the monthly and the deductible. And dont you realize there are people in your country that may not have the job to pay for such things or when they do get a life threatening illness the insurance companies triage them...you live you die...to save costs.

But who cares right, those arent in the same social class as you

[TattoodGirl]

Brenda wrote:

Quote:

Canada's tax's are high,

Compared to the US, probably. But compared to where I come from, Canada is tax heaven

Higher taxes means more social security. I am glad Canada is so smart to make people work for a decent living, and not sit on their asses for decent living. If you want a car, work for it, don't expect to get it from the government. (welfare in Holland pays more then a job at McD's...And you can stay on it for years...)

I do think however, that Canada needs more doctors and nurses. I always get to hear nurses are payd so little, but a friend of mine just immigrated to Regina, and he starts (as an RN) at $ 36/hr. I didn't think that was that bad?

In BC as well, if you take your degree and stay for a minimum of four years, the government will forgive part of the student loan. If an RN wants to work in a remote community, nearly all if not all is forgived and there is incentives to draw nurses there. It isnt the pay, its sometimes the work conditions and hours, but then and individual should be aware that it isnt a cushy job when they sign up. I am doing my Psych RN degree, its well worth it when you love the job.

[Brenda]

I agree that benefits (and the condition and hours) are a huge part of the income...