[BartSimpson]

Lemmy wrote:

ShintoMale wrote:

what is so crappy about cooked food from asian restaurants?

The same thing that's crappy about the non-Asian food at the mall. It's in the fucking mall!!

ShintoMale wrote:

you actually prefered filth from subways and fast food joints like wendys and MacDonald that treat employees like crap, and always hiring because of high turnover rates?

No, I don't prefer it. It's shit too.

ShintoMale wrote:

A&W is garbage i can't understand why people eating that crap.

I don't understand "why people eating that crap" either. But you totally misunderstood my post. I was commenting on the changing demographics of Canada, reflected in the mall food-court choices. I don't prefer ANY of the shitty food in the food court, whether Asian or North American.

+1

[kenmore]

If multiculturalism worked we wouldn't have little Italy, China Town or the other sub communities... people would be integrated into neighbourhoods and there wouldn't ethnic controlled areas like Markham or Brampton... you wouldn't have the advocation of schools based, not on faith but on ethnic origins. And as far a my comments on money being taken out of the country... a little light reading for you... http://www.montrealgazette.com/business ... story.html

[kenmore]

I would vote tory if they stopped this crap... and this is me, a bleeding heart liberal... but I am sick of the political correct shit .. time to take the country back in a real way...

[EyeBrock]

None of them have the balls to stop it Ken. It doesn't matter what Canadians want, our political masters (Tory and Lib) know better.

[andyt]

Bruce vii - I don't agree with importing large numbers of people from one culture. We already have that problem with the Chinese in Richmond. A whole mall won't serve customers in English, Chinese only. A friend tried to park at the mall and a Chinese woman slipped in ahead of her, telling her that parking was for Chinese only. I think the immigrants wet dream is to create their home country here in Canada, only they get to be the big shot here, instead of the loser that had to leave home. Instead, immigrants should be adapting to our culture, which they won't do when there are too many of them, when they achieve critical mass.

[andyt]

Kenmore - I totally agree - I too would hold my nose and vote reformacon if I thought they would clean up immigration. But as eyebrock says, they won't because there's votes to be had there. Why do we import the same number of immigrants every year, no matter what the job figures are in Canada? Why are 50% of all immigrants in the family reunion class, ie granny and grandpa living off our social services without having ever contributed? Immigrants cost the fed gov 18 billion a year more than they contribute in taxes.

[Bruce_the_vii]

andyt wrote:

Bruce vii - I don't agree with importing large numbers of people from one culture. We already have that problem with the Chinese in Richmond. A whole mall won't serve customers in English, Chinese only. A friend tried to park at the mall and a Chinese woman slipped in ahead of her, telling her that parking was for Chinese only. I think the immigrants wet dream is to create their home country here in Canada, only they get to be the big shot here, instead of the loser that had to leave home. Instead, immigrants should be adapting to our culture, which they won't do when there are too many of them, when they achieve critical mass.

Thanks for the comment. I don't have any favorite idea on which communities to favour - am just asking what other people think.

[CommanderSock]

It makes sense to have a little bit of all, rather than just one type of immigrant.

Having 160 ethnicities make up the 6 million or so non white Canadians is better than having 2 with 3 million each.

It keeps an easy peace of sort.

A 20% quota from each continent would be a better system than the current.

Toronto is the result of positive diverse immigration, ghettoized American cities are the polar opposites.

[kenmore]

I know of what you speak andyt with the issue in Richmond. In Montréal I had quite and experience in a food court. I went home for Christmas and took two of my grandsons to the mall. I went to order food and told them to sit at a table for 4. I was on my way to the table and noticed two muslim women ( wearing the hijab) sitting in two of the seats As I approached I was pushed from behind by a teenage boy and told to go sit someplace else. I refused as my grandsons were sitting there and there was hardly any empty seats.. Well you know what transpired..
It really pisses me off because these people and for the most part most immigrants feel some sort of entitlement..

[CommanderSock]

kenmore wrote:

I know of what you speak andyt with the issue in Richmond. In Montréal I had quite and experience in a food court. I went home for Christmas and took two of my grandsons to the mall. I went to order food and told them to sit at a table for 4. I was on my way to the table and noticed two muslim women ( wearing the hijab) sitting in two of the seats As I approached I was pushed from behind by a teenage boy and told to go sit someplace else. I refused as my grandsons were sitting there and there was hardly any empty seats.. Well you know what transpired..
It really pisses me off because these people and for the most part most immigrants feel some sort of entitlement..

It is sad that these sorts of immigrants give a bad name to ALL immigrants in Canada and give bigots ammunition who in turn stifle any progress on a rational and reasonable debate.

And I am still a bit at a loss of why immigrants in Montreal and Quebec as a whole are having such difficulties with integration while here in Toronto, the number 1 mixed union partnership as per the 2006 census was Blacks + South East Asian (Pakistani, Indian, etc) followed by black and white, white and asian (Chinese) and so on. Not to mention any office here is well represented of the demographical mix of the city and its surrounding suburbs.

I am not sure if its a Quebec thing, of if Quebec just chooses immigrants of lower social caliber.

[EyeBrock]

The GTA has it's problems. Large ethnic 'enclaves' abound in Brampton, Mississauga, Richmond Hill, Markham etc and do nothing but add to tensions.

There are also huge pockets of generational poverty from large immigrant groups such as the Jamaicans that have not succesfully integrated and seem unlikely to anytime soon.

[CommanderSock]

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The GTA has it's problems. Large ethnic 'enclaves' abound in Brampton, Mississauga, Richmond Hill, Markham etc and do nothing but add to tensions.

There are also huge pockets of generational poverty from large immigrant groups such as the Jamaicans that have not succesfully integrated and seem unlikely to anytime soon.

They're faring far better down here than in not just Quebec, but in many places around the world.

Race riots in Paris, Birmingham, Cincinnati, LA, Montreal, you name it.

Toronto, Brampton, Mississauga, Vancouver, and so on...they are marrying, owning million $$$ homes. Yes, a big generalization but all you have to do is take a drive down Mississauga road and see immigrants living in $1.6m homes.

Take a walk through King Street, Queen Street, Eatons Centre, people of all colours mingling, holding hands and no one tossing out dirty looks like so many places I've visited around the globe.

There's sometimes young ones I can't even recognize ethnically. Bizzarre mixes (and I applaud that). Blacks and Asians, Indians and Whites, Trinidad mulatto mixed with Chinese you name it.

That's a far cry from hurling rocks at each other.

[ShintoMale]

EyeBrock wrote:

The GTA has it's problems. Large ethnic 'enclaves' abound in Brampton, Mississauga, Richmond Hill, Markham etc and do nothing but add to tensions.

There are also huge pockets of generational poverty from large immigrant groups such as the Jamaicans that have not succesfully integrated and seem unlikely to anytime soon.

I live in the GTA and i don't see any tensions nor ethnic segregation and Jamaicans have no problems integrating and people conmplain about immigrants not "integrating" the only people not integrating are the Amerophile types who are born in this country

[Bruce_the_vii]

Well in the GTA you have a Caribean immigrant drop out rate in highschool of 40%, you meet immigrants that have been her for 40 years and still don't know how to have a conversation in English and there's an economic divide with the coloured immigrants on the bottom. These are managable problems. I don't know about tensions. Lots of concern about good jobs not available.

[Lemmy]

ShintoMale wrote:

I live in the GTA and i don't see any tensions nor ethnic segregation and Jamaicans have no problems integrating and people conmplain about immigrants not "integrating" the only people not integrating are the Amerophile types who are born in this country

Take a tour to Keele & Eglinton some time and see how the Jamaican "integration" is going. York Memorial has had more lockdowns than all the other highschools in the TDSB combined this year.