[Delwin]

Maybe I haven't considered the ability of the right to manipulate that which is true into that which isn't or vice-versa.

For example:
Global Warming
Gun control saving lives
Low taxes have correlated to a booming economy
The founders were in agreement that the scope of government should be limited
The United States’ imperialist past was limited
Opportunity in America has been equal to all
The United States has been (until recently) a free market

[ShepherdsDog]

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

[Gunnair]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

Fuckhead liberals hardly corner the market on being fuckheads. There's plenty on the right vying for that crown.

[ShepherdsDog]

The more things change, the more they stay the same

[Freakinoldguy]

I must be getting old because I can remember a time in Canada when we were given somewhat unbiased information and then allowed to make an informed decision using that criteria.

Now it's hysteria, innuendo, mistruth, or plain blatant lies that pass for information making it almost impossible for sane people to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[Brenda]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I must be getting old because I can remember a time in Canada when we were given somewhat unbiased information and then allowed to make an informed decision using that criteria.

Now it's hysteria, innuendo, mistruth, or plain blatant lies that pass for information making it almost impossible for sane people to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[Thanos]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

Yeah, it's getting bad again, like it was in the 1990's. I thought we'd broken out of the speech smothering that the liberals were engaging in back then. The 2000's, thanks mostly to the advance of the internet, seemed to put a stop to the worst of it. Nowadays though it seems to be ramping up again. Reading the comments at place like the CBC, or the comments/articles at places like Gawker is just fucking depressing. Even the moderates that comment there are attacked and the columnists are doing things like demanding their political opponents be imprisoned for the "wrong" kind of opinions. I thought the later wave of the baby boomers in the 1970's were bad with their lockstep intolerance of what they didn't like. But they've got nothing on the leftist millenials, who seem singularly vicious in their approach to just about everything they don't like. Maybe it's an American thing, or a generational thing, or maybe it's because the millenials are the kids of the boomers and picked up all the wrong lessons and attitudes from their parents. Regardless of what it is it's not a lot of fun to be around.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

Banning this thread:


Pros____________________________Cons
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Less data usage.-------------------Cons don't get to enrage people
Remain impartial and objective.------Conservatives don't get circle jerk
Fair application of rules.-------------Conservatives run show with impunity

Yeahhhh, it's just too bad the site is OWNED by an NDP supporter. In fact, since I've been here, more lefties have been banned than righties for being complete and utter assholes.
You obviously also haven't been around here long enough to understand that most of the posters on here are somewhat centered in their political views.

It's friggin' ironic listening to some of the lefties on here pissing and moaning about how they feel ruled by Harper, yet you want to ban a thread because you don't like the topic.
I guess that's more of the highly vaunted Liberal tolerance that liberals are always telling everyone else they have.

The topic and OP is pretty lame I'll grant you, but your crying about it and wanting it banned is magnitudes of order lamer.

And by all means correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't you the same person who shortly after arriving here wanted Bart and Martin banned because you considered them to be "un-Canadian"?

[Unsound]

Thanos Thanos:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

Yeah, it's getting bad again, like it was in the 1990's. I thought we'd broken out of the speech smothering that the liberals were engaging in back then. The 2000's, thanks mostly to the advance of the internet, seemed to put a stop to the worst of it. Nowadays though it seems to be ramping up again. Reading the comments at place like the CBC, or the comments/articles at places like Gawker is just fucking depressing. Even the moderates that comment there are attacked and the columnists are doing things like demanding their political opponents be imprisoned for the "wrong" kind of opinions. I thought the later wave of the baby boomers in the 1970's were bad with their lockstep intolerance of what they didn't like. But they've got nothing on the leftist millenials, who seem singularly vicious in their approach to just about everything they don't like. Maybe it's an American thing, or a generational thing, or maybe it's because the millenials are the kids of the boomers and picked up all the wrong lessons and attitudes from their parents. Regardless of what it is it's not a lot of fun to be around.

I feel like you're giving too much importance to the comments on CBC or wherever. THose peopel have always been around. The net has given them more of a forum to speak out, but I don't feel that most of society has actually moved on their say so. For all that the radical leftists/rightists might want certain speakers or subjects banned and for all that they can make a lot of noise about it... we're all still talking about that shit. I do worry about the state of free speech on this country, but as long as so many people are publicly worrying along with me... I think we're probably ok.

[Public_Domain]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Liberalism versus Conservatism.

Conservatives will ground up the parents of Liberals and trick them into eating it?

[Public_Domain]

Gunnair Gunnair:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

Fuckhead liberals hardly corner the market on being fuckheads. There's plenty on the right vying for that crown.

We're all fucked and it's been going to hell for awhile.

Let's fake a smile and see where we end up,

[Public_Domain]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Delwin Delwin:

Banning this thread:


Pros____________________________Cons
---------------------------------------
Less data usage.-------------------Cons don't get to enrage people
Remain impartial and objective.------Conservatives don't get circle jerk
Fair application of rules.-------------Conservatives run show with impunity

Yeahhhh, it's just too bad the site is OWNED by an NDP supporter. In fact, since I've been here, more lefties have been banned than righties for being complete and utter assholes.
You obviously also haven't been around here long enough to understand that most of the posters on here are somewhat centered in their political views.

It's friggin' ironic listening to some of the lefties on here pissing and moaning about how they feel ruled by Harper, yet you want to ban a thread because you don't like the topic.
I guess that's more of the highly vaunted Liberal tolerance that liberals are always telling everyone else they have.

The topic and OP is pretty lame I'll grant you, but your crying about it and wanting it banned is magnitudes of order lamer.

And by all means correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't you the same person who shortly after arriving here wanted Bart and Martin banned because you considered them to be "un-Canadian"?

Trev, as far as I'm aware, is a Liberal supporter/voter, not NDP...

What I love is that he used to advertise the forum as " nonpartisan" until he found the absolute perfect term, with absolutely all of its hostile connotations attached: "multipartisan"!

[jj2424]

Thanos Thanos:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Many 'self declared liberals' don't want to try and convince you of anything, or sway you towards their view point. They want to shut down any and all debate on matters they disagree with.

Yeah, it's getting bad again, like it was in the 1990's. I thought we'd broken out of the speech smothering that the liberals were engaging in back then. The 2000's, thanks mostly to the advance of the internet, seemed to put a stop to the worst of it. Nowadays though it seems to be ramping up again. Reading the comments at place like the CBC, or the comments/articles at places like Gawker is just fucking depressing. Even the moderates that comment there are attacked and the columnists are doing things like demanding their political opponents be imprisoned for the "wrong" kind of opinions. I thought the later wave of the baby boomers in the 1970's were bad with their lockstep intolerance of what they didn't like. But they've got nothing on the leftist millenials, who seem singularly vicious in their approach to just about everything they don't like. Maybe it's an American thing, or a generational thing, or maybe it's because the millenials are the kids of the boomers and picked up all the wrong lessons and attitudes from their parents. Regardless of what it is it's not a lot of fun to be around.

I think the left wing commentary on the CBC has increased, it happened right after other media outlets put up pay walls. The cheap socialists needed a free place to vent and have now overpopulated the CBC.

[FieryVulpine]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Liberalism versus Conservatism.

Conservatives will ground up the parents of Liberals and trick them into eating it?

If the shoe fits...

[andyt]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yeahhhh, it's just too bad the site is OWNED by an NDP supporter. In fact, since I've been here, more lefties have been banned than righties for being complete and utter assholes.
You obviously also haven't been around here long enough to understand that most of the posters on here are somewhat centered in their political views.

It's friggin' ironic listening to some of the lefties on here pissing and moaning about how they feel ruled by Harper, yet you want to ban a thread because you don't like the topic.
I guess that's more of the highly vaunted Liberal tolerance that liberals are always telling everyone else they have.

The topic and OP is pretty lame I'll grant you, but your crying about it and wanting it banned is magnitudes of order lamer.

And by all means correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't you the same person who shortly after arriving here wanted Bart and Martin banned because you considered them to be "un-Canadian"?

Trev, as far as I'm aware, is a Liberal supporter/voter, not NDP...

To the right wingnuts there's no difference.

It's funny how the right here has adopted the American fashion of making liberal an insult, when it used to denote more libertarian ideals vs restrictive conservative ones. And we know that conservatives are all about libertarianism. Well, except when they're not. When it takes Gunnair to step in and try to balance things out a bit, stopping Shep in full rant, you know there's trouble.