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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:35 pm
 


My family and I have very little to complain about.

But to hear some Americans talk we get chronically poor service.

As a Canadian how to you feel about your healthcare? :rock:


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Not happy with the wait times or the lack of family doctors. Patience is required when dealing with the idiosyncrasies of our system. And not voting in such dumb provincial governments all the time would probably do all of us much more good. But at least I don't have to worry too much about my 76-year old mom losing what's left of her savings to cover the costs for her respiratory problems the way we would if we lived down south. I also don't have to worry too much about spending $15000 out of my own pocket in the emergency room if the rather strange and disturbing dog next door finally gets lucky and rips a chunk out of me. I had my appendix out in July 2006 and couldn't have been treated better by the doctors and nurses, despite all the lies and horror stories that jerks like Mark Steyn like propigating. Read the last two months of archives at Andrew Sullivan's "The View From Your Sickbed" segments for some horror stories from the other side about what happens to the under- or non-insured people in the United States when they're unfortunate enough to get injured or sick. Needing medical help sure shouldn't cost you your goddamn house just to get some.

I can put up with the frustrations of slower service. I don't think that having to spend around $1000 per month out of pocket for health insurance the way they do in the US just to get allegedly better and faster service is worth it. Private medicine should be used as a supplement to the public system but never as a replacement. Everyone deserves the best quality care possible, not just rich people.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:09 pm
 


It's always worked fine for me when I needed it. No complaints.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:14 pm
 


Recently I lost my Uncle from cancer. He had a bleed that would not heal so he went to find out why and found cancer. There was an experimental treatment that cost $10k and amazingly the province approved it. Didn't work and he was dead in a month. Shame too, as he just retired. There was nothing the system could have done to save him but what it could do it did. RIP Jim.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:46 pm
 


When I had an issue 4 years ago, I spent 24 hours on a gurney in a corridor before I got a bed. It wasn't a great experience.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:03 pm
 


Why do We insist on comparing to the U.S?
Their health care system sucks.Its wrong.We all agree on that.
I would never want that system but We need to make Ours better.
The waits in the emergency rooms are criminal and are not getting better in Ontario.
The stats say they are but all that was done was putting gurney's in hallways.
We need to pay the Doctors to stay in Canada and except more foreign doctors.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:07 pm
 


What we need to do is expand the system at the same pace of population/immigration growth. Where I live the population has grown by 40% over the past 10 years but we still have the same three hospitals.
Since McGuinty got in I pay about $320 more tax a month for the "health care premuim".
Where's all that cash going? Not on health care where I live.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:09 pm
 


For me it's not very good at all. I need to be followed by a psychiatrist. Last year it took 9 months on a waiting list to at last see one. Last month, my psychiatrist retired so I'm again on a waiting list for another and I have to go to emergency to take blood test and for a renewal every month.

When you see a doctor, the care is very good. The problem is the waiting and the services.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:12 pm
 


Ash1980 wrote:
Why do We insist on comparing to the U.S?
Their health care system sucks.Its wrong.We all agree on that.
I would never want that system but We need to make Ours better.
The waits in the emergency rooms are criminal and are not getting better in Ontario.
The stats say they are but all that was done was putting gurney's in hallways.
We need to pay the Doctors to stay in Canada and except more foreign doctors.


Exactly. The public-only system is unsustainable. We better integrate a private option right now before we have to pay much more in 10 years when the baby boomers will retire. The best system are in Europe and they are public+private.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:29 pm
 


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Not happy with the wait times or the lack of family doctors. Patience is required when dealing with the idiosyncrasies of our system. And not voting in such dumb provincial governments all the time would probably do all of us much more good. But at least I don't have to worry too much about my 76-year old mom losing what's left of her savings to cover the costs for her respiratory problems the way we would if we lived down south. I also don't have to worry too much about spending $15000 out of my own pocket in the emergency room if the rather strange and disturbing dog next door finally gets lucky and rips a chunk out of me. I had my appendix out in July 2006 and couldn't have been treated better by the doctors and nurses, despite all the lies and horror stories that jerks like Mark Steyn like propigating. Read the last two months of archives at Andrew Sullivan's "The View From Your Sickbed" segments for some horror stories from the other side about what happens to the under- or non-insured people in the United States when they're unfortunate enough to get injured or sick. Needing medical help sure shouldn't cost you your goddamn house just to get some.

I can put up with the frustrations of slower service. I don't think that having to spend around $1000 per month out of pocket for health insurance the way they do in the US just to get allegedly better and faster service is worth it. Private medicine should be used as a supplement to the public system but never as a replacement. Everyone deserves the best quality care possible, not just rich people.

Perhaps it's just Saskatoon. I had been in the North for 30 years and had seen doctors from Northern Health Services for that whole time. Actually, the same doctor for almost 20 of those years. I moved to Saskatoon and tried out a doctor near my home a few times when he has minor emerg clinics going on and after about the third visit asked if he could take me on as a regular. No problem. I realize we have fewer doctors per capita, but so far it has not affected me.

Likewise, my wife went numb from belly button on down. She was in the States visiting her mom. A local doctor in Kentucky told her the tests would be $10 000 and perhaps she should go home. So she did. I took her to emerg in Saskatoon and she had to wait for a grand total of 2 hours. That was from entering emerg to coming out of the Nurologist's office. Some wait times, eh. She went home (North) and was admitted to hospital the next day for her treatment.

I am sure you can find problems with any situation where people are being served. And like I said one time last year to Bart, we are going to have every poorly treated hangnail and boil paraded out for the Americans to see. Looks like it's happening.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:38 pm
 


Never had a problem getting a family doctor and never had a family member not get critical care that they needed. Health care here for me is just fine. And I love knowing there aren't Canadians getting screwed because they cant afford it that adds to the deliciousness of my experience with healthcare.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:59 pm
 


Yea, nice to hear bible type. I live in the GTA. There's a long line-up for everything here.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:59 pm
 


I've been lucky enough not to have had much need of the Health Care system, but when I've needed it, it's been there for me. I had a badly busted ankle and they fixed it up. I had a minor knee problem and they fixed that up. Been stitched up a few times and I'm still pretty. 8)

As for wait times, you don't have to wait for emergency treatment. People with arterial bleeding and heart-attacks don't have 'wait times'. Yeah, it's annoying to wait, but that's human nature. No one likes to wait for ANYTHING. But I think our system is pretty good. I'm confident that if I'm ever in a bad way, I'll be looked after.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:01 pm
 


I had an irregular heart beat. I waited 24 hours in a corridor in Burlington.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:06 pm
 


EyeBrock wrote:
I had an irregular heart beat. I waited 24 hours in a corridor in Burlington.


If it went from 'irregular' to 'not at all', I'm sure they'd have been right on it. I waited about 24 hours for my ankle surgery, so I understand your beef. But I'm sure if either of us had gone from uncomfortable to critical, we'd have been looked after, tout suit.


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