[DrCaleb]

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Imagine there was a domestic phone book that, rather than landing with a thud on your doorstep, existed in cyberspace. What would that phone book look like?

It would have your name, address and home phone number, obviously. That’s what old-fashioned phone books always contained, unless you paid for an unlisted number.

But this being 2012, it might also include your mobile number, your email address, and your IP address. (This is the number that identifies your computer to the Internet.) The thought makes you feel a bit uncomfortable, doesn’t it?

...

But simply knowing who you are is not a breach of your privacy, the Conservatives respond. They maintain the legislation empowers police to acquire nothing more than the 21st-century equivalent of what used to be found in the white pages.(*)

In a world of digital clouds, criminals and terrorists will exploit new technology to evade detection. Reasonable citizens will want to equip police with the tools to fight back.

But reasonable citizens will also want to limit the ability of the state to snoop on you and me. So who should we be listening to: the government or the privacy commissioners?

Anyone who is worried about having their identity hacked, either by cyber criminals or the local constabulary, will want to follow this debate.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... nt=2315486

(*) The problem with that argument in my eyes is; that information shouldn't be collected in the first place. And I like the 'Crime and Terrorism' fallacy thrown in too.

[Brenda]

You can opt out of having your phone number listed. You cannot opt out of being registered at a certain address in some government database. To compare this with a (public) phone book is a tad simple...

[Mr_Canada]

This idea doesn't sit well with me.

[martin14]

Mr_Canada wrote:

This idea doesn't sit well with me.

On the contrary, you should love it.

Makes it much easier to keep an eye on the proletariat.


It used to be, that in your identity card, which you had to have with you
24 hrs a day, a space was included for where you worked, complete with stamp.

When you left your job, the employer would stamp your ID again.

No job ? Straight to jail.....



Gotta love the Commies.

[Mr_Canada]

martin14 wrote:

Mr_Canada wrote:

This idea doesn't sit well with me.

On the contrary, you should love it.

Makes it much easier to keep an eye on the proletariat.


It used to be, that in your identity card, which you had to have with you
24 hrs a day, a space was included for where you worked, complete with stamp.

When you left your job, the employer would stamp your ID again.

No job ? Straight to jail.....



Gotta love the Commies.

Close, except there'd be no 'employers',

[martin14]

Mr_Canada wrote:

martin14 wrote:

Mr_Canada wrote:

This idea doesn't sit well with me.

On the contrary, you should love it.

Makes it much easier to keep an eye on the proletariat.


It used to be, that in your identity card, which you had to have with you
24 hrs a day, a space was included for where you worked, complete with stamp.

When you left your job, the employer would stamp your ID again.

No job ? Straight to jail.....



Gotta love the Commies.

Close, except there'd be no 'employers',

don't have a clue about much.

[BartSimpson]

Mr_Canada wrote:

martin14 wrote:

Mr_Canada wrote:

This idea doesn't sit well with me.

On the contrary, you should love it.

Makes it much easier to keep an eye on the proletariat.


It used to be, that in your identity card, which you had to have with you
24 hrs a day, a space was included for where you worked, complete with stamp.

When you left your job, the employer would stamp your ID again.

No job ? Straight to jail.....



Gotta love the Commies.

Close, except there'd be no 'employers',

That is awfully ignorant of you, comrade.

This is a Communist web site with info on the topic:

http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/go ... s/ch17.htm

[Mr_Canada]

Yeah I'm the one who doesn't have a clue. Totally.

I've had this conversation on here a million times. You both are complete idiots.

Have a good one. lol.

I have trouble some days on getting myself to not be a troll and pretend I'm the Soviet shitcase you insist I am just so I can mock the strawmen and idiocy you dorks expound for some old fashioned lulz.

[ShepherdsDog]

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You both are complete idiots.

Someone who hasn't got the wherewithal to complete the bare minimum in educational requirements really doesn't have much room to call others idiots.

[Mr_Canada]

Whatever dude. I know where I stand, so when two dildos are accusing me of being a Soviet then I will happily lambast them as idiots. They could have all the god damn slips of paper in the world telling them that they are geniuses, doesn't make them correct when they think they know what their talking about with crap they don't give the time of day. Not all education is in dim-lit classrooms.

[ShepherdsDog]

See my previous post and concentrate on the "bare minimum in educational requirements". You are the author of your own failure, yet you want to blame others who succeed for your shortcomings, rather than your slacker mentality. How can you ever help others, when you can't even take care of yourself?

[Mr_Canada]

I don't blame anyone for my 'shortcomings'. I'm pretty certain you'll never find a statement from me where I put the 'blame' on anyone else. So that's BS.

Keep shoving me in whatever little box you manage to see fit. Slap whatever damn sticker you want on there and pretend you know me. Other human beings are so simple to read, title, and degrade.

[FieryVulpine]

All I know about you is only gleaned from reading your posts, but every argument you put forward is utterly vacuous to the point where I wonder if you even READ Marx. You have all these "wonderful" ideas yet no practical way to implement them because you--quite frankly--lack the vision or intelligence. I am not certain of your current status but I recall that you admitted that you were unemployed and still living in your parents' house in another thread. It's ironic that you call Bart an idiot when he has educated himself, enjoys a career, and earned his way through life when you haven't even flipped a burger.

I also seem to recall that your only ambition in life his to relax and not have to worry about working for a living. Well guess what, I am fifteen credits short of a Bachelor's Degree in English (not terribly useful, I know) and work a service industry job I can barely tolerate-- but I know I live a privileged life and have to suck it up because there are many people less fortunate than I. As for you, you are simply a parasite with delusions of grandeur.

Oh, and go ahead and mock me. I can take it because I'm farther ahead in life than you will ever be.

[Mr_Canada]

Yeah you're just another dude who thinks he has a grasp me. You've formed your 'opinions' by what others have summerized of me.

Frankly you could pound sand, as far as your opinions of me go.

Shitheads out of the woodwork tonight.

[ShepherdsDog]

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You've formed your 'opinions' based on what I've posted about myself.

Fixed to reflect reality.