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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:55 am
 


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A fine post.

So, since I've been away for a while, why did Avro get axed?


for being the usual drama queen and a dink


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:43 am
 


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Jack is anything but a side show for the Liberals. If you watch any question period you would see him attacking the Liberals and Conservatives. He is a smart man and knows what he is doing. He is the NDP's best chance to bring social democracy to Canada and stop the capitalist Conservative and Liberals. The only problem with him (as a party insider) that he isn't a socialist but more of just a progressive.


Osama bin Layton is a clown that makes his policy in Fantsy Land. I still vividly remember him from the last election saying.

"Oh I defenitely think were going to form the next government"

As for him being a socialist or a proggresive, im sure he cares about people. but he cloaks essentially a radical socialist controlled economy under the cloal of 'worrying' about the middle class. Voters have seen this and gave him his due - which aint much

And do you remember the Cowichan NDP organiztion that called our soldiers "terrorists" i didnt see 'Ol Jack out there condemning them, the coward


well of course he is going to say he thinks he can form the next government. He has to show people the NDP isn't a wasted vote and that it can really do something.which he has by being an effective opposition.

I have learned that He knows were the NDP is in the opinion polls. When last month I was sitting down and talking with him he said "yes we are not in a great position but we have been growing." As for a radical socialist unfortunately he isn't one nor does he give the illusion that he is one. But I guess you have to be on the left to know what a radical socialist really looks like. Also yes if the NDP was to get into power they would buy up all the industry and no one will own anything...wake up to the 21st century and get out of the cold war.


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For a party that abhors religion in daily life, you guys sure have a great deal of faith in Jihad Jack.

Even the most reasonable of you still came out in defense of Svend Robinson.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:10 pm
 


The NDP is our Socialist movement in Canada.

And it frightens me we have some 30/300 seats that are socialist.

And it also scares me that my province has a socialist government.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:00 pm
 


Socialism isn't any more scary then capitalism. You must be getting communism and socialism mixed up because they are two different beliefs. How about public funded health care is that scary? The people in the NDP are not all Socialist in fact the majority are not. Many of the people in the NDP are a combination of progressives, environmentalist, feminists and more. Also those socialist governments are run very well, they have balanced budgets and still put out progressive legislation.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:04 pm
 


and there is no freedom of enterprise, and there is nothing to work towards.

All income is divided equally, etc.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:13 pm
 


maybe you should look a little harder at NDP policy's. Just look at your provincial government and you will see your wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:23 pm
 


The inhourable Gary Doer, lol.

In Manitoba we spend the most in health care and rated the lowest in the country.

NDP government

We have the most corrupt educational system in the nation (Manitoba Teacher`s Society - MTS).

NDP government

We had 35-40 THOUSAND young people leave the province.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:38 pm
 


really well I don't think he was that bad due to he just got re-elected to his third majority government. to the 35-40 thousand young people leaving well thats happening every were. Even more so in the Atlantic Provence's which most of them have a conservative government. The most corrupt educational system goes to Quebec hands down. Trust me you guys are doing good, I got Dalton and the Fiberals until October were Ontario has its election and we can get Howard Hampton and the NDP in power. But under Doer were is the so called "no freedom of enterprise, and there is nothing to work toward. All income is divided equally, etc." exactly just cold war right-wing style propaganda


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Ok, well my parents both worked in the education system in MB.

My Dad as a special needs resource teacher in highschool
My Mom as a Teacher`s Assistant.

My father retired 5 years only.

My mother quit.

The education system is so f**ing corrupt in Manitoba, and its unions - which is NDP. NDP is in bed with the unions here.

Anyways, Quebec could be worse, but MB is rate up there.

I guess its not soley fair to blame the MB NDP for the young people that are fleeing for AB, BC, and ON, but I am not happy with them.

Yes, they did get a majority, but with only 51% support. Meaning 49% of the province didn`t want them in.

In Manitoba, its more of the GDP.

Gary Doer Party - GDP.

People like the guy - hell I don`t mind him. I don`t like the party, but I don`t mind the man, but I usually vote for the party, not the person.

Its quite evident that in 4 years from now when Gary retires, the Tories will take-over in MB.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:29 pm
 


westmanguy westmanguy:
The NDP is our Socialist movement in Canada.

And it frightens me we have some 30/300 seats that are socialist.

And it also scares me that my province has a socialist government.



I'm a small "p" pol when I go on these political boards it's of interest to me what other people's opinion is. However the number of people who work with very little information or have not thought through very much or are just very naive is a little amazing and dismaying. I'm not particularly well educated or well read but I must say I'm doing fine realative to these "others". For example the Koyto accord advocates generally think that by shaving the emission of CO2 you'll make a difference? Fortunatley Jack rounds up many of them and takes them out of the decision making process with the vote for the NDP.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:04 pm
 


well to be fair Doer is the second most popular premier in Canada so I can see what you mean with the GDP but just look at Manitoba's voting past and you see the NDP is strong there with short periods of interruption by the...is it PC like Ontario or just Conservative? But Jack is doing a great job in opposition and someone has to do it because god only knows what is going on with the Liberals these day's.

To address the "taliban Jack" has anyone thought that maybe it would be a good idea to talk with the taliban. I am currently looking at the theory that we are not fighting the taliban any more but really just angry civilians with nothing left to lose. We are fighting these civilians and the media just labels them taliban which they are not. This is just a theory and no real proof to back it up but if true then we have to take a second look at our strategy. According to my cousin who is in the American military stationed in Afghan he knows the exact date when Canada stop building the nation and turned into a military because the nation has been slipping from that day on. If we build the nation this so called "taliban" will disappear.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:32 pm
 


westmanguy westmanguy:
Ok, well my parents both worked in the education system in MB.

My Dad as a special needs resource teacher in highschool
My Mom as a Teacher`s Assistant.

My father retired 5 years only.

My mother quit.

The education system is so f**ing corrupt in Manitoba, and its unions - which is NDP. NDP is in bed with the unions here.

Anyways, Quebec could be worse, but MB is rate up there.

I guess its not soley fair to blame the MB NDP for the young people that are fleeing for AB, BC, and ON, but I am not happy with them.

Yes, they did get a majority, but with only 51% support. Meaning 49% of the province didn`t want them in.

In Manitoba, its more of the GDP.

Gary Doer Party - GDP.

People like the guy - hell I don`t mind him. I don`t like the party, but I don`t mind the man, but I usually vote for the party, not the person.

Its quite evident that in 4 years from now when Gary retires, the Tories will take-over in MB.



I like to consider myself somewhat right of center these days, and ill tell ya. I didnt even bother to vote this year. Im no fan of Gary doer and his do nothing attitude, But there is two major reasons why i would never vote for the PC's in Manitoba and both of them involve Hugh Mcfayden. The first is that he was a crony of Gary filmon. If you want to talk about corruption then no better example was the vote riggin in 1995. just as i will never forgive mulroney for the F-18 contracr, I can nver forgive the Manjtoba PC party for trying to subvert the democractic process.

The other thing in the most recent election campaign huh Promised to being back the jets and use public funds to do it. I also remeber the Jets and Barry Shenkarow soaked the City for millions of tax-payer dollars, and hugh made the statement he would use public funds again for them.


Bad bad bad - all bad


And for the record my own father was a teacher and pricipal for over 40 years and the education system as always needs improvment, but is not corrupt.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:27 am
 


westmanguy westmanguy:
The NDP is our Socialist movement in Canada.

And it frightens me we have some 30/300 seats that are socialist.

And it also scares me that my province has a socialist government.

if this makes you feel any better here in sask we too have a ndp govt..but theyre on borrowed time...they will get the crap kicked out of them come the next provincial election which will be happening pretty soon..and of course the ndp are stalling for as much time as possible


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:34 pm
 


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Jack is a nutcase. Plain and simple.


Can you give any reason for that opinion?

I've just scanned through this thread and it surprises me to read all the assertions which seem disconnected from any sort of argument.


Here are some examples of assertions that just sort of stand by themselves in search, it might seem, of an argument:

1) "Jack is a nutcase. Plain and simple."

2) "The moon is made of green cheese."

4) "Hansome Jack and his Chow are soon to become irrelevant - much to the chagrin of far left nutters the likes of al-Blare and Avro - which really is too bad for them - for if they jumped on the bandwagon and deposed their frequently useless but sometimes relevent Dipper leaders, they would likely garner far more credibility and just might have an impact."

5) "The Earth is really flat."

6) " lol, maybe Jack did pay market rates after all but who cares. The rap sheet on him is pretty lengthy. I have a university degree but have worked as general labour in small factories and small warehouses for 20 years now and the NDP has little support amongst the proletariate. That's the wrap."

In so far as all of the above assertions come as bald statements which aren't attached to any supporting arguments they all have equal value. If you're not going to present an argument to support an assertion, you may as well just find a speaker's corner and shout, "The Earth is Flat!"

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