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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:21 pm
 


The Canada Day incident was very offensive, and I don't mind mandatory service, but WITHOUT having the obligation to go to the front lines. In other words, helping in disaster zones, getting training, re-instilling respect in young people is all OK, but why would you send a bunch of wimps to get blown up by terrorists in Afghanistan? Not everyone is cut out to be a fighter. The people who want to defend our country, volunteer. Those that don't, have no intention to go to war, so getting them into a conflict is more of a hassle and pain in the a$$, than a benefit. Maybe have mandatory military service for domestic defense.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:16 am
 


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Well if you cannot see the bad effects of this idea I'm wasting my time trying to point them out to you!

Forcing everybody to serve would fill the ranks with a lot more harder and unwilling to train recruits WOULD IT NOT?

How did you become so god damn narrow minded! I guess you swallowed the brain washing hook line ans sinker eh?

Are you still in!


Bad effects? From training people to respect others and provide a service to their country? ZGive me a fucking break and stop thinking like a Liberal. Consider the positive side to all this instead of underestimating the thousands of kids that just need a little guidance in life. We are not talking about forcing them into a life long commitment, but rather a year or two in uniform. After which they can put the money they earn towards education or a bag of weed...Their choice. If htey don't like the military they can at least be happy knowing they get out at a specific date and time. If htey behave badly you make them pay for that behavior.

I'm far from narrow minded. I come from a rather ugly background of family abuse. The people I call mom and Dad are not my real parents, but rather people that got me back on track in life. I have experienced more in life than you ever could. I've buried two brothers to drug and booze abuse and he;ped my one sister get her act together after years of selling her body to drunk assholes with $200 in their pockets. I've lived the life you read abotu in your cute little Liberal lies book. None of their programs work. It's all a lie to get them in power. Only a society built on hard laws works. The mushy liberal crap doesn't do shit....Well it does make those fat liberals richer... :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:22 am
 


SJ-24 SJ-24:
Only a society built on hard laws works. The mushy liberal crap doesn't do shit....Well it does make those fat liberals richer... :roll:


And yet America has one of the highest levels of violent crime in the world....If you take the hard laws to the extreme that the Taliban did then maybe you would see a major reduction in drinking, prostitution, and such.....

But I think pretty much all reasonably free countries have problems with those vices, whether they are more liberal or more conservative...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:03 am
 


I think it's a great idea. Its something I've often thought about myself. I was gonna make a thread on this but did a quick search and here we go :)

Obviously not a popular idea but lets look at some of the pro's and con's of the idea.

Pro's
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- Teaches discipline, teamwork & communication skills
- Educates & encourages healthy living (nutritional eating, staying fit etc..)
- Encourages higher education and skill development
- Could potentially lead to cheaper post-secondary costs for students who have served time in the military as the military offers a variety of programs that balance education and the forces.

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- Expensive to set up and maintain
- Many citizens would be opposed to the idea of having to serve time. (What do we do with them? Jail them? -If so, our jails would fill up fairly quickly.)

I personally think it's a great idea, and I wish it were implemented. But I just don't see how it would happen. Works great for some countries (IE Finland).

Overall, if s*** happened, we'd be well prepared in terms of man power. Our youth would be well educated


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:07 am
 


How American ! feel sorry for any government that tries manditory service in Canada... is this a Harper idea?? if it is he will deninately be out on his ass in the next election..Quebec will never support this and neither will alot of other Provinces


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:21 am
 


Nope, I think it is a Dion idea. And, Quebec isn't planning on supporting him anyways, and neither will a lot of other provinces.

BTW, Kenmore, shame on you for implying that Quebec was a province, especially after all the effort they went through to be called a nation.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:05 am
 


Oh yea, great idea. Take those street gang members, force them in the army, give them a good training.

When they come back they will be much more efficient with their guns. And they could even learn how to make bombs.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:15 am
 


i have seen conscription in Slovakia, and its change over to an all volunteer force.


It's an interesting question for me.. as a young man, i did not enter the services.. my opinions, freedom etc. were too important.

Now passing 40, i recognize that it could have been a good idea to go.

everyone hopes the military instills some discipline, fitness habits, teamwork etc.

could have used some discipline back then.. :)

I think people would like to see something that will make better citizens, and people who take pride in their country.
They see the military as one vehicle to get that done.
the proudest Canadians I have met are almost always from the military.

It could be done, it should be done, but it needs to be thought out properly and properly funded.

I vote yes.. i see now the benefits


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:29 am
 


Strangely enough, I've never thought this was a really bad idea.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:37 am
 


in trying to provide these people with some "perspective" on what it is truly like to serve you would really just be eroding the quality and integrity of the Canadian Forces.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 am
 


like I said aging...... there is a big difference between a nation and a country..... like the first nation people and the great nation of french speaking people Quebec....but still a province in Canada..


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:35 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
like I said aging...... there is a big difference between a nation and a country..... like the first nation people and the great nation of french speaking people Quebec....but still a province in Canada..


Saskatchewan is a province, too.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:34 pm
 


The reality is that in canada "compulsory military service" is really impossible to enforce in Quebec. Two world wars proved that......

We have enough problems with unity without dropping the conscription bomb.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:41 pm
 


Who dragged this sad old thread up when it died in the summer of 2006?

Yawn.


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