"Marriages of conv[en]ience are not allowed under Canada's immigration law. It is illegal to be married simply to immigrate to Canada. Spousal sponsorship is a serious legal commitment." "If a person enters into a marriage of convenience and comes to Canada as an immigrant, enforcement action can be taken. This enforcement action could result in deportation, and is the responsibility of the Canada Border Services Agency."
After sponsoring my wife, and after my wife abandoned me, I contacted Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and I have been told by the representative on the phone that "We are sorry that she has used you to come to Canada; there is nothing that can be done as she has already landed in Canada; she is recognized as a legal immigrant and you have to support her for three years although you might have been abused." What does this mean? Has the government of Canada deceived me? Why is the marriage of convenience "illegal" before the sponsored persons land in Canada and "legal" after they land in Canada? When the sponsorship principle is based on the truthfulness of the relationship between the wife and the husband, why the sponsorship is not void although the relationship has not been genuine?
I am writing to express my deepest concern that there is no marriage commitment in Canada, marriage fraud is legal in Canada, and the Canadian system is victimizing the citizen sponsors by supporting marriages of Convenience with sole purpose of immigrating to Canada. My family and I are victims of the Canadian System that is not enforcing Canadian Immigration Law. I have been told by the RCMP that: my wife is an adult; she is free to decide; there is no such thing as a marriage commitment; there is no support for the sponsor; there are various supports for the sponsored; the sponsor should carry the burden of marriage fraud. Canadian system deceives the sponsor by providing an opportunity to the fraudulent sponsored people to enter Canada and then victimizing the Canadian citizens by supporting those criminals with tax payers' income.
Other countries, namely the United States, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Germany and many others grant periods of conditional establishment to spouses of their nationals. The sponsorship agreement should be void and the sponsored person's visa should be void if there are sufficient evidences proving that the relationship has not been genuine and the sponsored person has married the sponsor only to immigrate to the sponsor's country.
The free services the Canadian government provide to the sponsored and the poor enforcement of the Canadian law by the Canadian government, make it so attractive to the sponsored people to fraud. As soon as the sponsored person arrives in Canada, if over 18 years of age, he/she is considered an adult and he/she is not abide by any agreement including the sacred marriage agreement and the sponsorship agreement. Why? It is because our laws are this way. Whether the sponsor has been abused, the sponsor and the rest of the Canadian tax payers should carry the burden of the sponsored. We all Canadians should ask the government to change the law and we can make it happen if we understand how our laws are misused, if we understand on what our taxes are spent, and most importantly if we care!
The important issue is that there is no definition for the sacred marriage in Canada. As I have been told by the RCMP, my wife is an adult and is free to decide as there is no marriage commitment. My sponsorship has been based on my marriage commitment; when there is no marriage commitment in Canada, how can there be a sponsorship agreement based on marriage commitment?
Aaaagh, one of those "Canadians" who think once they get married the women is their property to do what you wish, more so if they are an immigrant and new to Canada. Not sure of the laws.
I am sure she left you for a very good reason. One I can see above in your post. Get over it dude, get a life.
Both my ex-wives were immigrants to Canada, neither of them left me. Yes I divorce both, but I still live with one and the other visits often.
Maybe rather than making a shit load of fuss, you should look more as to why she left you. A little anal-retentive?
CMF
Newbie
Posts: 7
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:11 am
To: tritium
Here is a story from StopMarriageFraud.ca victims list. Abdollah a Canadian Citizen Married Arezou a native of IRAN in December 27, 2005. His wife arrived in Canada on October 25, 2007 without letting him know. Should Abdollah be victimized, the Canadian tax payers be victimized, or the fradulent wife? Why do you think she left Abdulla?
Stories: Abdollah
Abdollah was intrudes to Arezou by her brother Sayyed Samad whom immigrated to Canada not long before and encouraged him to seek relationship with Arezou as she was a good woman and he would have a happy life with her. Abdollah had seen and known Arezou before as the used to live in same City.
They have started and continued their romantic relationship by talking on the phone e-mails and letters for some times.
Shortly after their wedding he started the process of sponsorship for her.
During this period, she used to keep telling him that she loved him, and he would do many things for his now wife such as sending her cash and gifts, trying to make her life happy and easy and hoping that soon they will join and start their life together.
She arrived in Canada on October 25, 2007 without letting him know.
On October 26, 2007, while he was checking the status of the application for her sponsorship on Immigration's website, he discovered following message in his file:” Arezou entered Canada at Lester B. Pearson International Airport, Terminal No. 3 on October 25, 2007 and became a Permanent Resident.”
He immediately called her in Iran and he was advised by her mother that she (Arazou) was sleeping and when he insisted that he wished to speak with her, her mother hung up the phone.
On the same day, (October 26, 2007) in search of her brother he, ran into her and saw her with another man holding hands with. He entered into nervous shock and even considered suicide.
Prior to seeing her in Toronto on October 26, 2007, she gave no indication that she did not wish to continue with the marriage. In fact, some weeks prior her arrival to Canada, she asked him for $1000.00 Cad. Because she said that she wanted to buy some house wares for their home in Canada.
At no time she advise him that she had received her immigration visa, or when she received it, or when she was coming to Canada or that she had arrived in Canada.
As a result of her deceit, he suffers from a deep depression. He lost his job, dropped out of university where he was taking some courses.
Immediately after her arrival, she has started receiving welfare.
On November 13, 2007, she sent a short email to him ” I wish you a good life.”
She's in the arms of another man, great then the other man can keep care of her. Was the other man a Canadian citizen.
Relationships fall apart all the time, it's a new era, and lots of pussy on the market.
You know the old expression, there are Plenty of Fish in the Sea. Here you go, happy hunting. http://www.plentyoffish.com
All I can say, if these 100 year old men, would quit trying to bring 20 year old women into Canada, with on thing on their minds... maybe they wouldn't feel so hurt when the women find companionship with someone closer to their age. LOL
Here is a great example of the 100 year old man, and the 25 year old trophy bride.
Brenda
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Posts: 43182
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:08 am
I can see his point though, Tritium... Besides the fact he probably loved her, and her leaving hurt him, he is supposed to take care of her legally, while she used him. The Canadian government should not keep their end of the bargain either (thus he shouldn't) because she doesn't.
Why would anyone have to sponsor someone that walked out on him/her? Regardless of where she/he came from?
kenmore
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7646
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:39 am
The whole thing is bullshit.. there should be no pre-arranged marriages to get into a country. I have a niece who is chatting with a guy on the net and he is in the Arab emirates. He wants her to sponsor him.. we are trying to talk her out of it.. she is a little naive
tritium
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Posts: 7775
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:35 am
Brenda wrote:
I can see his point though, Tritium... Besides the fact he probably loved her, and her leaving hurt him, he is supposed to take care of her legally, while she used him. The Canadian government should not keep their end of the bargain either (thus he shouldn't) because she doesn't.
Why would anyone have to sponsor someone that walked out on him/her? Regardless of where she/he came from?
You are right, but this story is all to familiar. Old guy wants a young girl.
Thinks once they are married, the marriage certificate is sorta like a car title, now you can do whatever you want to her, threaten her if she does not do this or that the husban will cancel the sponsorship.
I know of many women who have been exploited that way in Canada & the United States, so where is their protection??
I am actually sorta suprised at you Brenda, I thought you would understand this more, an immigrant yourself.
Think of the young lady, in a strange country not all that familiar with the laws, how easy it would be to victimize someone like that.
I am sure you can agree, any man that goes shopping around for a "Mail Order Bride" basically has that mentality, and of course would be pissed when he loses, tossing up silly blogs and web sites to try and punish the ex-wife.
AS I SAID. There is always to side to the story.
The husband could have beat her, raped her, whatever. Remember, "you don't fuck me this way or that way, I will cancel your sponsorship."
Brenda
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:00 am
Me being an immigrant makes me think certain things?
You know, it is a stupid thing in itself that you marry someone, go back to Canada, and wait for her to come over. That is not even necessary.
My point in this is not about the male or female, but about the Canadian law. You are making a victim of the "poor young woman", who might (yep, assumption too ) not even be a victim.
I think that a partner should not be held to the sponsorship-agreement, if the partner walks out. ANY crime the walking out partner commits, any speeding ticket, any fine has to be paid by the sponsor... And that is just the tip of the iceberg...
Wally_Sconce
CKA Elite
Posts: 3819
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:11 pm
I think that is perhaps a good reason why someone should have a prenupt.
tritium
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Posts: 7775
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:28 pm
Brenda wrote:
My point in this is not about the male or female, but about the Canadian law. You are making a victim of the "poor young woman", who might (yep, assumption too ) not even be a victim.
The same assumption is being assumed that the woman is a crimal here and committed fraud. Without taking into consideration extenuating circumstances...
LAW, is not always black and white.
Brenda wrote:
I think that a partner should not be held to the sponsorship-agreement, if the partner walks out.
ANY crime the walking out partner commits, any speeding ticket, any fine has to be paid by the sponsor... And that is just the tip of the iceberg...
As I stated above, lets say the partner abuses the sponsored spouse. Yeah, then the partner is still responsible.
Brenda
CKA Uber
Posts: 43182
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:52 pm
What she needs to do then, is get a divorce, and if that is within 3 years after the marriage, get deported.
But of course she won't, because these ladies are not stupid
I know what you are trying to say, and I fully agree with you. Man is stupid for getting a Russian (or whatever) bride, and she is smart for getting a "free" visa. It doesn't solve the problem though...
Brenda
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Posts: 43182
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:52 pm
Aging_Redneck wrote:
I think that is perhaps a good reason why someone should have a prenupt.
I think everyone should have a prenupt.
Wada
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Posts: 3080
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:23 pm
Marriage fraud is an intregal part of Western civilization.
tritium
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Posts: 7775
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:02 pm
Wada wrote:
Marriage fraud is an intregal part of Western civilization.
Well at least in the United States you have to stay togeather for a minimum of 10 years. (5 years, generally they don't deport you after that)
Now as a man, who wouldn't marry this chick below, knowing full well your going to get some of that for the next 10.
BTW, that is not the father of the bride sitting next to her, that is the lucky son of a bitch that will be tapping that ass for the next 10 years.
Now in 10 years, you can trade her in like an old Buick and get a newer younger model for another 10 years.
Hope you see the sarcasm in the above post towards this whole thread.
CMF
Newbie
Posts: 7
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:00 pm
First: My family and I spent a lot of time, thousands of dollars on travel and arrangements and a great deal of effort to get my wife into Canada. The Canadian system and law has demoralized not only me but every single person in my family. We are experiencing a depression and sickness as a result of this. We will be quitting our jobs if not fired as a result of our deep depression, and apply for social assistance (welfare). Who is now paying for all of us? You and the rest of tax payers who do not care and do not question the government with its unjust law.
Second: Marriage is sacred. Other countries and cultures value family, marriage commitment and the statement below:
“I shall take you to be my wife/husband, to have and behold from this day on, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; until death do us part.”
In Canada, you basically lie in all the parts. In Canada you can walk away from your marriage commitment anytime you fill to do so.
In other countries you can't unless the court decides.
In my case and Abdulla's case, my fraudulent wife and the fraudulent wife of Abdullah walked away from their marriage commitment as they wished to do so.
Those spouses who walk away are not the main guilty people. It is the law of Canada that encourages them to do so!
With all respect and apology to all animals, if Canada's law doesn't change, the population of dogs in Canada will be greater than the population of human beings (if it is not greater now).