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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:10 pm
 


Something sounds awfully wqrong about these two statements....I wonder what it could be.....Oh yeah, I forgot....







NOT ALL PARENTS ARE GOOD PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:11 pm
 


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NOT ALL PARENTS ARE GOOD PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!
See above.


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Something sounds awfully wqrong about these two statements....I wonder what it could be.....Oh yeah, I forgot....







NOT ALL PARENTS ARE GOOD PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!


Who cares, thats not the public's fault.


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And they wonder why 1st world nations birth rates are regressing. :roll:

How are we supposed to have a nation if we do not support the people? I'm not talking about supporting a crack whore with her 60th kid I am talking about a young couple that need both incomes just to make ends meet while trying to get an education. Daycare is allowing a respite to citizens so they can get back into the fight that is our nations economy. Without them we are sunk and hopelessly dependant on an endless surge of skilled immigrant labour that will be in high demand by all countries like never before. A baby bonus is useless without follow up.


Sorry, but that's a load of bollocks. People need to start taking responsibility for themselves, not depending more on the Govt. Canadians have been socially conditioned into this condition of Govt. dependency, and it holds the economy back big time.


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IS YOUR CHILD IN DAY CARE?

A recent comprehensive study has determined that children who spend their early years in day care will turn out to be discipline problems later on. To be more specific, the study says they'll be more prone to violence and other anti-social behaviors.

Just why are there so many children in day care? How come their mothers aren't home caring for those kids at home? In a word, government. To be more specific, blame it on the cost of government.

Fifty years ago the average American family would see between five and seven percent of their household income taken by government. Now that figure is often over 40%. Get out your calculator ... take a look at your earnings and your spouse's earnings. Work out a figure representing the total cost of sending the lower-earning spouse to work. This figure should include everything: wardrobe, transportation, day care – every cost that can be associated with sending the lower-income spouse to work every day. Now ... look at your federal income tax bill. You will most likely discover that the lower-earning spouse in your household is working for no other purpose than to satisfy your tax burden to the government.

Odd, isn't it ... the far-reaching consequences of our ever-growing imperial federal government. The more government we get the more it will cost ... and the more violent children we will raise ... and the more crimes they will commit ... and the more government will cost ... and so it goes.

I like the North Korean model. Compulsory daycare. Week end visits to hear the toddlers chant praises for their dear Leader.


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Frankly, I'd prefer having a national daycare plan knowing that my kids would receive government supported care, instead of Harper's $1200 a year deal that goes to the parents. First of all, it's too little for daycare, and secondly, there are quite a few parents who would take that moeny and spend it partying, drinking, doing drugs, or spending it on that new TV you always wanted.


That would mean you'd be on childcare subsidy? May I ask how much you pay to have your children in daycare?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:15 pm
 


It's not the publics fault if you get sick either but we have hospitals don't we?


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IS YOUR CHILD IN DAY CARE?

A recent comprehensive study has determined that children who spend their early years in day care will turn out to be discipline problems later on. To be more specific, the study says they'll be more prone to violence and other anti-social behaviors.

Just why are there so many children in day care? How come their mothers aren't home caring for those kids at home? In a word, government. To be more specific, blame it on the cost of government.

Fifty years ago the average American family would see between five and seven percent of their household income taken by government. Now that figure is often over 40%. Get out your calculator ... take a look at your earnings and your spouse's earnings. Work out a figure representing the total cost of sending the lower-earning spouse to work. This figure should include everything: wardrobe, transportation, day care – every cost that can be associated with sending the lower-income spouse to work every day. Now ... look at your federal income tax bill. You will most likely discover that the lower-earning spouse in your household is working for no other purpose than to satisfy your tax burden to the government.

Odd, isn't it ... the far-reaching consequences of our ever-growing imperial federal government. The more government we get the more it will cost ... and the more violent children we will raise ... and the more crimes they will commit ... and the more government will cost ... and so it goes.

I like the North Korean model. Compulsory daycare. Week end visits to hear the toddlers chant praises for their dear Leader.


Great post! PDT_Armataz_01_37


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It's not the publics fault if you get sick either but we have hospitals don't we?
So what? I don't have children. Why do I pay tax to take care of someone elses children. At least with public healthcare everyone is gonna use that sometime.


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Consider this folks:

The Liberals say:
The Liberal child care plan will mean that Canadian children will benefit from safe, secure regulated facilities, licensed instructors, and an emphasis on learning and development.

Reality:
Privately run daycares, are safe, secure and regulated just like public daycares are. All ECE's are licensed as well.

The Liberals say:
In Ontario, 25,000 new regulated child care spaces will be created by April 2008

Reality:
Daycare's are limited to the amount of children they can have. Most, if not all publically run dayrcares are at capacity.

You can't just cram in 25 thousand more kids. That would make them unsafe and they'd fail inspection.

They make no mention of building new daycares, so where are the 25 thousand kids going to go?


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Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Something sounds awfully wqrong about these two statements....I wonder what it could be.....Oh yeah, I forgot....







NOT ALL PARENTS ARE GOOD PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!


Who cares, thats not the public's fault.


Apparently it's the public's responsibility though :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:33 pm
 


Canada's child-care system languishing: OECD

A new report that included a review of the Island's child-care system has found a patchwork of dismal programs that offers basic babysitting but not much more.

The Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development reviewed 20 countries. It said Canada's system was chronically under-funded and found subsidies inequitably distributed to a small number of the poorest families.

As part of the report, four European investigators toured dozens of programs in Prince Edward Island, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia, the only four provinces that agreed to be in the review. The report is to be released Monday.

While they did find several examples of well-run day cares, more often they came upon centres that were shabby, with workers who were poorly trained and who frequently quit.

In many centres, they found barren, poorly lit rooms with an abundance of plastic toys and games that were "of doubtful learning quality." Playgrounds were lacking.

Overprotective child-care workers frequently forced youngsters to sit down and not move.

Unlike other cold-climate countries such as Sweden and Finland, which have highly rated systems where preschoolers spend hours at a time outdoors, the Canadian children spent almost all of their time inside.

The report recommended that federal and provincial governments each pay 40 per cent of day-care costs, with parents making up the remaining 20 per cent.

Canada has among the highest percentage of working mothers of young children, yet it invests less than half of what other developed nations in Europe devote on average to early-childhood education, says the report.

Canada has regulated child-care spaces for less than 20 per cent of children under six with working parents.

In comparison, 60 per cent of young children in the U.K. are in regulated care, and 78 per cent in Denmark.

It also recommended child care be integrated with kindergarten, and that recruitment and training be improved.

The federal government has promised to pump $5 billion over five years into provinces and territories that create early-learning and child-care spaces that are regulated and universally accessible.

Day care shut down after 2nd baby left alone

Childcare in Sweden

Here are the facts, we have a system that is NOT up to the task of basic child care. Do something.


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I was born and raised in Canada - left 15 years ago. I watched a news piece on the CBC Newsworld International channel several months ago (before Al Gore TV bought it) and was AMAZED at the story of the daycare issue being discussed. Amazed because it was the default position of all that were interviewed that the government was the only option. Since when is it the government's responsibility to raise your kids? People want all of their "rights" and none of the responsibility that goes with it. As someone earlier had mentioned "brainwash em early and often".


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I was born and raised in Canada - left 15 years ago. I watched a news piece on the CBC Newsworld International channel several months ago (before Al Gore TV bought it) and was AMAZED at the story of the daycare issue being discussed. Amazed because it was the default position of all that were interviewed that the government was the only option. Since when is it the government's responsibility to raise your kids? People want all of their "rights" and none of the responsibility that goes with it. As someone earlier had mentioned "brainwash em early and often".


Unfortunately that's what you get all the time on the Canadian Brainwashing Corporation. It really is unbelievable to watch their Election coverage. The same old bandits doing the reporting. Same old, same old.

Soon we'll have Mansbridge doing one of his touchy, feely, town hall meetings. Enough to make me puke!


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Ronradio Ronradio:
I was born and raised in Canada - left 15 years ago. I watched a news piece on the CBC Newsworld International channel several months ago (before Al Gore TV bought it) and was AMAZED at the story of the daycare issue being discussed. Amazed because it was the default position of all that were interviewed that the government was the only option. Since when is it the government's responsibility to raise your kids? People want all of their "rights" and none of the responsibility that goes with it. As someone earlier had mentioned "brainwash em early and often".


Unfortunately that's what you get all the time on the Canadian Brainwashing Corporation. It really is unbelievable to watch their Election coverage. The same old bandits doing the reporting. Same old, same old.

Soon we'll have Mansbridge doing one of his touchy, feely, town hall meetings. Enough to make me puke!


Can you direct me to the entirely impartial media with which to garner info from? Perhaps the Sun newspaper chain?


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