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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:14 pm
 


What a joke this thing is.

A Librano ploy to get young single mothers' vote.

Well I've got news for them. Most of them don't vote. They are much more concerned about America's Top Model or Brad and Angelina.

Also, most working parent couples would rather have some choice in how the money is spent, and who is looking after their children. They don't want their children controlled by the state.

A feeble attempt by the Libs to generate some more dependancy on the Fed Govt., and to make it an issue in the future, akin to the Health Care scam.

This is going to be a bigger issue at the polls than the Libranos think.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:54 pm
 


lily lily:
$1:
A Librano ploy to get young single mothers' vote.

Well I've got news for them. Most of them don't vote. They are much more concerned about America's Top Model or Brad and Angelina.

Would it be out of line for this single mom to call you an idiot?


Not at all.

He had a point, but ruined it with his stupidity.

The Liberals plan ONLY applies to publically run daycare, most which are at capacity in Ontario and it doesn't apply to private centres which take govt. subsidy.

There is no daycare plan, it's a baseless promise.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:57 pm
 


lily lily:
$1:
A Librano ploy to get young single mothers' vote.

Well I've got news for them. Most of them don't vote. They are much more concerned about America's Top Model or Brad and Angelina.

Would it be out of line for this single mom to call you an idiot?
lily you must be a real sweetheart.

You can call him much, much worse than that without stepping out of line.

That was quite the comment he posted.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:24 pm
 


Scott Reid Apologizes To Rednecks Over "beer and popcorn" Comment

The Harper daycare program is $1200 to spend as they see fit. That is a tax cut. There is no plan to create affordable daycare centers to as many people as possible for minimum cost.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:34 pm
 


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Scott Reid Apologizes To Rednecks Over "beer and popcorn" Comment

The Harper daycare program is $1200 to spend as they see fit. That is a tax cut. There is no plan to create affordable daycare centers to as many people as possible for minimum cost.



Anything that gets money back to the people and out of the Gov't hands is a good thing. We don't need $32.00 a hour liberal union workers brainwashing kids.

Hear Buzz will get to assemble the new "diaper changers union" that’s why he’s kissing PM’s ass.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:45 pm
 


I don't see how calling a tax cut a 'program' is anything but more of the same while ignoring the problem because of fearmongering like "$32.00 a hour liberal union workers brainwashing kids".

Daycare is not something the private sector has been able to do correctly or effective because the people who need it are trying to work at the same time so cash is tight. The private sector responds to supply and demand and the demand is there but the supply simply isn't so we have over half of the countries population in their most productive years not earning wages but scrambling for daycare. We have created a situation where it is an either or choice. You either have a career or you have a kid. The absolute horse shit I hear is dumping on single moms and NIMBY as to why nothing is done. What you don't hear is how much this is really costing the nation as a whole as the silent majority has to bear the brunt of this lack of vision. Trust me I know this 1st hand doing work for the ministry of advanced education for years. The numbers are there of lost potential is simply staggering. Masters and Doctorates are being sacrificed because of this, don't tell me their skills aren't needed and don't tell me they have an option to turn their backs on their own flesh and blood, I don't see you lining up to run a daycare.


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A Librano ploy to get young single mothers' vote.

Well I've got news for them. Most of them don't vote. They are much more concerned about America's Top Model or Brad and Angelina.

Would it be out of line for this single mom to call you an idiot?


Not at all.

He had a point, but ruined it with his stupidity.

The Liberals plan ONLY applies to publically run daycare, most which are at capacity in Ontario and it doesn't apply to private centres which take govt. subsidy.

There is no daycare plan, it's a baseless promise.


Not at all, I expected some heat on here over this. But I'm sorry to say that it's true. Older single mums may vote, but younger ones are mostly apathetic.

I'm sorry you took this personally, but it's usually the case when a man comments on anything to do with raising a child these days.

You will notice that I qualified that comment with "most" and "young".

The fact is that the Libs are pandering towards people who either "don't have time", or can't be bothered to raise their children the traditional way.

A lot of modern "family" situations do not make it easy for parents to raise their children the way they used to. Unfortunately, a lot of parents also choose to pursue careers more than pay their children the right amount of attention, even though they have the opportunity to financially ie. have a good enough income from one parent. It's a case of misplaced priorities.

Day Care help is a good thing. Making it compulsory and across the board without allowing for choice is not. This issue will get a lot of attention late in the campaign and will add to the Libs woes. Most parent couples will like the Conservative plan.

You can call me an idiot all you like, but you know I have a point, whether you liked that comment or not.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:00 pm
 


I'd like to know how much money the government is going to give to me. I have no children but I pay tax all the same. Don't I deserve a hand out? I actually heard a woman on the radio saying she deserved 5,000 cash every year because staying home from work deprived her of 60k per year in earnings. Earth to idiot, you chose to have children, no one had anything to do with it but you and the sperm donor.

Therefore it's up to you to care for them. The thing I think the government should do is reduce taxes so that people can care for there children as they see fit.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:03 pm
 


Frankly, I'd prefer having a national daycare plan knowing that my kids would receive government supported care, instead of Harper's $1200 a year deal that goes to the parents. First of all, it's too little for daycare, and secondly, there are quite a few parents who would take that moeny and spend it partying, drinking, doing drugs, or spending it on that new TV you always wanted.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:03 pm
 


Sorry you feel that way, Lily


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RUEZ RUEZ:
Therefore it's up to you to care for them. The thing I think the government should do is reduce taxes so that people can care for there children as they see fit.


Hear, hear!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:06 pm
 


Well, I guess people choose their paths.

And unfortunately, all too often these days, the paths of THEIR children. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:09 pm
 


And they wonder why 1st world nations birth rates are regressing. :roll:

How are we supposed to have a nation if we do not support the people? I'm not talking about supporting a crack whore with her 60th kid I am talking about a young couple that need both incomes just to make ends meet while trying to get an education. Daycare is allowing a respite to citizens so they can get back into the fight that is our nations economy. Without them we are sunk and hopelessly dependant on an endless surge of skilled immigrant labour that will be in high demand by all countries like never before. A baby bonus is useless without follow up.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:09 pm
 


Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Frankly, I'd prefer having a national daycare plan knowing that my kids would receive government supported care, instead of Harper's $1200 a year deal that goes to the parents. First of all, it's too little for daycare, and secondly, there are quite a few parents who would take that moeny and spend it partying, drinking, doing drugs, or spending it on that new TV you always wanted.


Sure you would you're a socialist. You also think Castro is doing a good job.

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knowing that my kids would receive government supported care


You are a KID, how sad is that?

Brainwash em young Brainwash em often


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Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
First of all, it's too little for daycare, and secondly, there are quite a few parents who would take that moeny and spend it partying, drinking, doing drugs, or spending it on that new TV you always wanted.
If you can't trust the parents to do right for thier children then thier children should be taken away. Why coddle people all the time?


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