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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:59 pm
 


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Let me be clear lest my point be lost.

I don't really have a solid opinion about the HSTs. Some in BC are in favor yet many are not, but then, few will accept a tax, regardless what it's called. In my opinion, it's more of a provincial matter anyways because the Feds deal with all provinces the same regarding this matter.

Liberal MP Ujjal (The Dose) Dosanjh jumped on this to use against the federal government. Now we see that Ontario is doing the same with the blessing of Iggy. Will The Dose speak out about his own boss approving a HST in Ontario?

To calm the frazzled nerves of the Only-Ontario team, this is more of an attack against The Dose.



Lest this turn into another Ridenrain/Fox styled lie fiasco, please explain why you refuse to admit the errors in the original accusation of this topic and the continuing assertions by you.

1 Ignatieff was falsely accused of supporting it.

2 McGuinty has retracted the accusation about Ignatieff supporting it.

3 The Harper government certainly supports it.

Now that the facts are out in the open, would you care to comment on them or are you going to continue with the farce?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:18 pm
 


Poquas

If you had read this entire thread you would note that RR did submit that McGinty backtracked and made a correction, he never ever said the CPC didnt support it he just claimed that Ujal Dosanj ( fucking prick ex-premier) of BC is attacking the CPC from this side of the country while no one is standing up for Ontario against it.

By the way, why are your rep points off?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:22 pm
 


Actually for some things it will be better, but not for new home buyers starting out or for seniors checking out


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:26 pm
 


stokes wrote:
Poquas

If you had read this entire thread you would note that RR did submit that McGinty backtracked and made a correction, he never ever said the CPC didnt support it he just claimed that Ujal Dosanj ( fucking prick ex-premier) of BC is attacking the CPC from this side of the country while no one is standing up for Ontario against it.

By the way, why are your rep points off?


If YOU read the LAST post HE made and that I subsequently quoted, you would have seen this;

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Now we see that Ontario is doing the same with the blessing of Iggy.


You really think he gets it?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:51 pm
 


Ok, close enough to a day.

I guess not! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:50 pm
 


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Compromising positions: Ignatieff and the HST

It came at the tail end of the scrum, which is probably why it garnered relatively little media coverage. But even in mid-liveblog mode, an ITQ eyebrow went up when Michael Ignatieff was asked about his party’s seemingly contradictory position on the GST/PST harmonization plans in British Columbia and Ontario.

Instead of simply answering the question, he reminded reporters that he’s the leader of the opposition, not the government, and, as such, “doesn’t have to have a position” — which, as far as he is concerned, meant that he didn’t have to clarify it.

Which, of course, is true: No one held a gun to his head and forced him to pick a side in the Great HST Debate of 2009. Unfortunately for Ignatieff, however, not only did he take a position, but for a while, there, he seems to been have holding both of them — at the same time. The facts, as the Narrator might say, were these: At some point during the last few weeks, someone at OLO made the strategic decision to go after the government on the HST deals in British Columbia in Ontario,almost certainly to boost Liberal support in two regions where it is both critical and — at least, according to the most recent polls — starting to slide.

Given the widespread public outrage over the tax — particularly in BC, but likely to grow in Ontario as well — it must have seemed, on the surface, like a smart move, particularly in what then seemed likely to be the leadup to a fall campaign.

The catch? Apparently, around the same time, someone else at OLO had given Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty the distinct impression that a future Liberal government would honour the existing agreement with Ottawa. Which is why when he was asked about it in a scrum last week, McGuinty was only too happy to go on the record with his understanding of Ignatieff’s views on the HST deal.

Not surprisingly, this left the federal Liberals rather unexpectedly on the defensive. John McCallum, the party’s finance critic, assured Hill reporters that the premier would soon be issuing a “clarification”. A few hours later, McGuinty’s office released a terse statement that, as it turned out, didn’t clarify much at all, except that the wink-and-a-nod on the HST didn’t come from Ignatieff himself, but some unnamed — but surely fairly senior — member of his team.

If that is what happened — and as far as ITQ knows, nobody at OLO has denied it — it isn’t hard to see why McGuinty would have assumed that the deal was safe, and after Ignatieff’s comments last Friday, he — not to mention the rest of us — deserve to know whether he was misled — unintentionally or otherwise — by someone speaking on Ignatieff’s behalf.


Really, when you get down to it, it goes to credibility — Ignatieff’s, that is, and not just on the HST, but in general. It would be different if this was the first time that we’d seen the Liberal leader attempt to have it both ways on a contentious issue, but it isn’t. (Round one of Ignatieff vs. Asbestos, anyone?) If he and his party are planning to campaign on the prime minister’s behind-closed-doors musings, he’d better make sure that he isn’t just as vulnerable to that line of attack.


http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/20/comp ... d-the-hst/


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An anonymous opinion piece to prove YOU still don't get it? :roll:

Keep digging. China must be close!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:02 pm
 


Since when did you start making comments about other parties and other provinces?
Oh.. that's right, since your charade as a long time Conservative was busted wide open.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:56 pm
 


8O Oops! I forgot about your rulebook.

A REAL Conservative shall have no bad opinions about anything to do with the Conservative party.

A REAL Conservative shall have no opinions that may be construed as positive about anything to do with any opposition party.

A REAL Conservative shall have no opinions about anything outside of their home province.

A real Conservative shall lie through their teeth to make political points for Lord Harper regardless of how stupid it makes them look.



I'll try to remember for next time. :roll:


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