[ridenrain]

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HST okay with Iggy: McGuinty
By JONATHAN JENKINS, QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU

Last Updated: 15th September 2009, 10:25am


The Ontario government has federal Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff's support for the sales tax harmonization, Premier Dalton McGuinty said today.

"We've secured Mr. Ignatieff's commitment to moving ahead with the single sales tax should he ever earn the privilege of serving Canadians in government," McGuinty said this morning. "We have approached Mr. Ignatieff in that regard and we've secured his support for this."

The premier said he hadn't personally spoken to Ignatieff on the issue but officials from his office have had discussions with the federal politician's staff.

Ignatieff has been critical of the way the Conservative government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper is implementing the sales tax harmony in Ontario and B.C. and has referred to the HST as the Harper Sales Tax.

The move has become particularly controversial in B.C. where Liberal MPs are worried they could lose their seats over it.

It's not clear if a federal election could stall Ontario's plan to combine the provincial and federal sales taxes starting July 1 — which is fuelled in large part by more than $4 billion in federal cash.

But McGuinty said today he's confident permutations in Ottawa won't derail the schedule.

"I believe Ontario and B.C. will secure the necessary commitments from any potential federal government to move ahead with a single sales tax," McGuinty said. "I'm confident of that."

I wonder if The Dose will be writting nasty flyers calling this Iggy's HST too?

[saturn_656]

Hands in my pocket...

[SigPig]

negative one point for Iggy

[Akhenaten]

Meh....at least he's willing to take a risky position if he thinks it's necessary.


This is like, what? 5% of a platform? Keep it coming Iggy, we want to hear more.

[ridenrain]

Keep in mind that Iggy is also playing up the BC HST unrest by calling it the Harper Sales Tax.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

The HST itself isn't a bad thing and I have no issues with it as a separate entity. It's all the tax hikes and new items to be taxed that McDickweed is throwing in WITH the HST that's going to kill us.

[saturn_656]

ridenrain wrote:

Keep in mind that Iggy is also playing up the BC HST unrest by calling it the Harper Sales Tax.

Looks like he losing track of all of his BS.

[ridenrain]

Let the back peddling begin...

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Ontario premier backtracks on claim federal Grits support his HST plan

ORONTO — Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty was forced to backtrack Tuesday after claiming federal Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff had pledged to support an unpopular new tax in the province.

"Earlier today during a media availability, I indicated that Michael Ignatieff was supportive of the HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) in Ontario," McGuinty said in a written statement issued late Tuesday. "This is based on my understanding derived from a number of conversations between my office and Mr. Ignatieff's office. In fact, there has been no formal agreement."

McGuinty's half-hearted retraction went on to say he was under "the clear impression" the federal Liberals supported the new blended tax in Ontario.

"We're in no position to make any arrangement with any government, nor any person — nor would we," said Ignatieff spokeswoman Jill Fairbrother. "We're the Opposition."

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ignat ... story.html

[Praxius]

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

The HST itself isn't a bad thing and I have no issues with it as a separate entity. It's all the tax hikes and new items to be taxed that McDickweed is throwing in WITH the HST that's going to kill us.

Exactly, look at the Maritimes and how they d*cked us over with the HST.

Home heating and power used to just be one tax, and it is now, only bigger then before.

Things with both taxes on them will go down in cost, but everything else that only has one or the other tax on them all go up.

And guess who gave that nugget to us and promised the world?

The Liberals *clap clap* Bravo arse wipes, thank a lot for that one.

And here they go again with this tax on everybody else.

Why are more people falling for it?

Because nobody reads the news about the Maritimes outside of the maritimes because Canada stops at Quebec remember? We're sorta the Mexico of Canada with everybody flocking out west for the crap jobs because nothing comes back this way for jobs and development.

We then complain about the taxes and high cost of living, so Liberals promise us HST and screw us even further..... then Nova Scotia Power goes Private and the costs of power increase every three months over one excuse or another.

Then we finally get a deal and some development coming our way with offshore and what happens?

Well our buddies the Conservatives re-written the agreement between our con provincial government and our con federal government and now we get even less, while our conservative premiere tries to use that money illegally to pay off other things he didn't plan out properly or simply didn't care.

And now we have the NDP in power..... Hmmm.... I wonder why?

[OnTheIce]

ridenrain wrote:

Let the back peddling begin...

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Ontario premier backtracks on claim federal Grits support his HST plan

ORONTO — Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty was forced to backtrack Tuesday after claiming federal Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff had pledged to support an unpopular new tax in the province.

"Earlier today during a media availability, I indicated that Michael Ignatieff was supportive of the HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) in Ontario," McGuinty said in a written statement issued late Tuesday. "This is based on my understanding derived from a number of conversations between my office and Mr. Ignatieff's office. In fact, there has been no formal agreement."

McGuinty's half-hearted retraction went on to say he was under "the clear impression" the federal Liberals supported the new blended tax in Ontario.

"We're in no position to make any arrangement with any government, nor any person — nor would we," said Ignatieff spokeswoman Jill Fairbrother. "We're the Opposition."

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ignat ... story.html

I wonder how quick Iggy's office got onto the phone and demanded he retract his statement.

[kenmore]

You gotta love this,, it was Flawherty who convinced McGuinty that Ontario should adopt this tax. Now that they are doing it the torys are staying clear... hard to believe McGuinty could be sucked in by the harper bandits eh

[Lemmy]

A harmonized sales tax is actually better than a non-harmonized one, from a purely economic perspective. A tax that is applied on everything spreads the incidence over all people, so no one person or group bears undo burden on the basis of their consumption choices. However, moving from a selective sales tax to a harmonized one means more inclusion and, therefore, more tax collection. So, the smart thing to do, in selling a HST, would be to harmonize the taxes, but lower the PST by one percent to offset the increased tax bill for consumers. This would also GREATLY assist low-income Canadians who spend a disproportionate percentage of their income on food, rent and fuel.

A HST combined with a 1% reduction in PST would likely amount to the same amount of total tax collection for the government and they wouldn't be stuck with the political fallout that they're getting from an already overtaxed citizenry.

[saturn_656]

kenmore wrote:

hard to believe McGuinty could be sucked in by the harper bandits eh

Given the level of intelligence the premier has displayed in the past, no not hard to believe at all.

Lemmy wrote:

A HST combined with a 1% reduction in PST would likely amount to the same amount of total tax collection for the government and they wouldn't be stuck with the political fallout that they're getting from an already overtaxed citizenry.

He'd have to drop the HST to at least 10% to satisfy me.

[ridenrain]

Let me be clear lest my point be lost.

I don't really have a solid opinion about the HSTs. Some in BC are in favor yet many are not, but then, few will accept a tax, regardless what it's called. In my opinion, it's more of a provincial matter anyways because the Feds deal with all provinces the same regarding this matter.

Liberal MP Ujjal (The Dose) Dosanjh jumped on this to use against the federal government. Now we see that Ontario is doing the same with the blessing of Iggy. Will The Dose speak out about his own boss approving a HST in Ontario?

To calm the frazzled nerves of the Only-Ontario team, this is more of an attack against The Dose.

[bootlegga]

It must be a good idea, because the Conservatives like it too...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0909 ... tion_costs

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"It's good longterm economic policy for the people of Canada," Flaherty said in Brampton, Ont.