[Bruce_the_vii]

Are not popular and I don't get it. At least public funding for them is not popular. I don't see why the principle isn't they support parents efforts to bring up childen properly, to ground them with a religious training. Instead the principle is public education for all. My information is that Ontario is the only jurisdiction that still funds Catholic Schools, which was oringinally part of the constitution. It was introduced by Bill Davis but was considered risky politics. We have official multiculturalims but we don't go so far as to even consider religious schools for the various cultures, which would be a basis of keeping their culture. I don't get it. It's not like there'll be ethnic strife in Canada.

[Mr_Canada]

"bring up children properly"

That's up for serious debate. Many people don't view brainwashing kids as good parenting.

[rawmeat]

Alberta funds the Catholic school system as well but it is concidered as part of the public school system, not private.

[fifeboy]

rawmeat wrote:

Alberta funds the Catholic school system as well but it is concidered as part of the public school system, not private.

Ditto in Saskatchewan.

[EyeBrock]

It's part of the BNA. Some provinces, such as NFLD opted out of faith based schooling (as in Catholic) but it required a refererendum, agreement from both Houses and the SCC.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Mr_Canada wrote:

"bring up children properly"

That's up for serious debate. Many people don't view brainwashing kids as good parenting.

I don't know that people with children would frown on parents trying to teach their kids values with some basic religious training. I mean parents get it. I know what you mean, there are religious zealots in the news that are somehow backward.

[Bruce_the_vii]

EyeBrock wrote:

It's part of the BNA. Some provinces, such as NFLD opted out of faith based schooling (as in Catholic) but it required a refererendum, agreement from both Houses and the SCC.

I wasn't sure of the status of this issue. What about Quebec, is Catholic schooling a big issue there still.

[EyeBrock]

Quebec and NB were the main reasons for the Catholic clause in the BNA, as well as minority rights of French-Ontarians.

[Brenda]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

Mr_Canada wrote:

"bring up children properly"

That's up for serious debate. Many people don't view brainwashing kids as good parenting.

I don't know that people with children would frown on parents trying to teach their kids values with some basic religious training. I mean parents get it. I know what you mean, there are religious zealots in the news that are somehow backward.

You don't have to believe in a higher power as in one God to bring up your children with morals and values.

"basic religious training" as in "We believe in God, God is great, God is the one you dedicate your life to, God is salvation" or as in "Some people believe in God, others in Allah, others in Buddha or in nothing. And this is the reason why"?

[EyeBrock]

Brenda, in the case of Canada, the rights of Catholics to receive faith-based schooling is enshrined in the BNA which forms the basis of Canada's existence as a country.

[Bruce_the_vii]

I don't have kids but I imagine parents could pretty much use some help in teaching them anything.

[Brenda]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

I don't have kids but I imagine parents could pretty much use some help in teaching them anything.

And the only "right" way to do that is the "religious" way?

[Brenda]

EyeBrock wrote:

Brenda, in the case of Canada, the rights of Catholics to receive faith-based schooling is enshrined in the BNA which forms the basis of Canada's existence as a country.

I don't think you get my point. I think personally that everybody should get the education they see fit for their children, and religion based education should be funded imo, just as public scholing is funded. Or more, I think kids should be taught what religion is, what it means, why, how, whatfor.
Most of my kids friends are religious, although they all go to the same public school.

When I went to elementary school, the school next door was a catholic school. Paid for by the tax payers, just like my public school. We had to go through the same curriculum, no difference. The only difference I was aware of, is that they prayed and we didn't. I think that is the right way.

The problem I have with this thread, is "the only right way to teach your children is the religious way".
Thats why I mentioned that you don't have to be religious to teach your children manners, morals and values. Personally, I see it as a personal insult, that since I am not religious, apparently I don't know how to raise my children.

[Bruce_the_vii]

The only right way? I didn't say that, or anything like that. I meant that it's one way of teaching behaviour to kids. It's the tradition, nothing wrong with the idea.

[EyeBrock]

Brenda wrote:

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

I don't have kids but I imagine parents could pretty much use some help in teaching them anything.

And the only "right" way to do that is the "religious" way?

I think you are mixing up arguments here Brenda. Catholics are ensured faith-based education under the BNA, others are not and they have to fund their own faith-based versions.