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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:27 pm
 


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OTTAWA — Fifty-per-cent plus one is indeed the level of support Quebec would need to secede from Canada, New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton said Thursday.

Hammered in Quebec for waffling on the question earlier this week, Layton clarified his views at a news conference called to make public the names of the members of his shadow cabinet.

“What constitutes a majority is 50 per cent plus one,” Layton said bluntly. “It’s in our official policies. It’s been adopted in our Sherbrooke declaration. That’s been crystal clear for five years as official policy of our party.”

But Layton was not so clear Tuesday at the end of the first day of a two-day NDP caucus strategy session. He specifically refused to say that very sentence despite being asked nine times.

He instead referred to a Supreme Court advisory written in 1998, which later became the Clarity Act, which allows the House of Commons to decide if a referendum question is clear and what a majority would mean.

Layton appeared to be distancing himself from NDP party policy on the issue of Quebec’s self-determination included in the 2005 Sherbrooke declaration. That declaration says the Quebec legislature is free to write its own question and that 50 per cent plus one is enough to decide on secession.


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A hot-button issue among politicians of all stripes in Quebec, Layton’s ambiguity earned him a stiff rebuke from federalists and nationalists who re-affirmed the 50 per cent rule applies.

Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois accused Layton of reneging on promises he made in the last election campaign.

“He said Quebecers’ choices should be respected, based on the 50 per cent plus one,” Marois said. “Now that he is in the House of Commons, he goes back on his commitments and orientations. I think we are seeing his real face and that is a great worry to Quebec.”

Even in his own caucus, made up of MPs from Quebec and the rest of Canada, the view is split, leading to speculation of trouble ahead for Layton on the sovereignty issue as he tries to walk the line.

But on Thursday, Layton insisted he was not vague at all, noting that he did say the Sherbrooke declaration is still the policy on the books.

“I said it and I repeat it today,” Layton said. “It has been our policy for a long time and it continues.

“No ambiguity. It was a position adopted in public at our policy convention in Quebec. Fifty-per cent plus one has been our position for a long time. No doubt about this.”

Asked in English whether he plans to ask sovereigntist members of his caucus to “park their views at the door,” Layton responded: “Every one of our MPs knows we are a federalist party. This is a group of one political stripe — orange. And they know that our goal is to try and create those winning conditions for Canada in Quebec.

“Every one of them has signed on to that project.”

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:27 pm
 


Uh huh...


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:46 pm
 


The Clarity Act is set federal law that's been approved by the courts, and all the main federal parties, including the goddamn NDP. Layton can't recklessly jerk around with it just to please his new separatist voting base in Quebec.

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The key points of the legislation included the following:

- Giving the House of Commons the power to decide whether a proposed referendum question was considered clear before the public vote;
- Specifically stating that any question not solely referring to secession was to be considered unclear;
- Giving the House of Commons the power to determine whether or not a clear majority has expressed itself in any referendum, implying that some sort of supermajority is required for success;
- Stating that all provinces and the First Nations were to be part of the negotiations;
- Allowing the House of Commons to override a referendum decision if it felt the referendum violated any of the tenets of the Clarity Act;
- The secession of a province of Canada would require an amendment to the Constitution of Canada.


What did I tell you guys about this little idiot and his leftoid Dipper dreamworld where he thinks up all this crap? This is just the start of four years of watching these clowns pratfall themselves to death.


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:45 pm
 


The fucking retard doesn't realize that the NDP opposition is an anomaly, that will likely be corrected in a few years.


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Now I really hope Layton doesn't become PM. The USA already has one neighbor splitting apart at the seams, abet in a much more violent way.


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:48 pm
 


DanSC wrote:
Now I really hope Layton doesn't become PM. The USA already has one neighbor splitting apart at the seams, abet in a much more violent way.


Well, so do we...


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:52 pm
 


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DanSC wrote:
Now I really hope Layton doesn't become PM. The USA already has one neighbor splitting apart at the seams, abet in a much more violent way.


Well, so do we...

Greenland? Because I haven't seen any major party leaders talking secession here.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:56 am
 


DanSC wrote:
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DanSC wrote:
Now I really hope Layton doesn't become PM. The USA already has one neighbor splitting apart at the seams, abet in a much more violent way.


Well, so do we...

Greenland? Because I haven't seen any major party leaders talking secession here.

I don't think Gunnair was referring to Greenland, I believe he was talking about the nation between Mexico and the Canadian border.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:14 am
 


Is it too late to change my vote? :?


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:24 am
 


raydan wrote:
Is it too late to change my vote? :?

You asked for it :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:44 am
 


It looks like the new NDP caucus wants to cover the BLoc position too.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:49 am
 


This is great. Layton and company have wasted little time in revealing just how retarded the party actually is. Even as the "official opposition" no one will take these clowns very seriously. The NDP status and position is being unvieled and this is very good news indeed. Four years of this and no one with half a brain will ever let these guys take control of this country.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:04 am
 


I suppose the NDP had to look for something to fuck-up that had been un-fucked.


This bodes well for the Tory future but I’m not so sure it’s a positive wrinkle. The NDP can occupy the masses with things that really will never happen while Caesar Augustus Harper can solidify his rule over the Senate and plebs.

I was hoping for more from Jack. A weak opposition focusing on the wrong issues isn’t a good thing for Parliament or Canada.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:20 am
 


There was one thing I was really hoping for when Quebec went orange:

A distinct reduction in the Quebec sepratist movement.

The pandering of politics...makes me want to puke.


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