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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:46 am
 


Apparently the lefies support this "reparations for slavery" to be paid by former slave trading countries.

Ironic when it was not the proposed recipients of these reparations who while participating in the trade, violently resisted the Royal Navy's efforts to curtail it.

Britain outlawed the slaved trade in 1807. The resulting embargo and actions of the Royal Navy were contributing factors in the US starting the War of 1812. After the War of 1812, while slavery continued in the US, importation of African slaves was outlawed by the US.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:13 am
 


sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Be careful this is one of the last places your are not banned.

It's about Afghan people to vote, to read and write, Women to expose their face or walk on a street alone without thugs shooting them in soccer stadia-----Maybe it's about having soccer games in their stadia----freedom from the threat of being murdered for not supporting bandit's control of their lives.
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I agree with you here. The taliban had to go, the people were being tortured and murdered on a regular basis. That is why I want to go back, to do my part to make the mission a success. We are succeeding, we just need to stay until the job is done. I have 13 years left, I'll go once every two years if I have to. It's 3 years away from my family, but that's the life I signed up for. I've been once, I'll go again.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:54 am
 


baylee baylee:
Who are we to say how Afghani women are treated when you see how ours are treated.And have been treated


The primary role of the mission it to vanquish an enemy that was/is clearly a threat to the peace and security of Canada. Liberating the oppressed and building schools and water wells are secondary and more a fringe benefit similar to buying a big screen HDTV for hockey and finding there is a whole new dimension to porn.

baylee baylee:
I dont recall anyone invading Canada trying to force their way of life on us


We call them crackers.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:52 pm
 


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May 7, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- The World Bank's director for Afghanistan, Alastair McKechnie, says he expects the Afghan economy to continue its rapid growth -- leading to considerable improvements in people's lives. McKechnie spoke with Radio Free Afghanistan broadcaster Mustafa Sarwar on May 4 about South Asia's fastest-growing economy, and about challenges stemming from threats to public security.

"For those of us who have been visiting Afghanistan for the past five years, the differences between early 2002 and today are quite staggering."

... the Afghan economy has already achieved double-digit economic growth. It's been the fastest-growing economy in South Asia, if you look at the last five years
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http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/20 ... 4889c.html


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:29 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:

And that made them whores? [huh]


Why would you think that?

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the Afghan economy has already achieved double-digit economic growth. It's been the fastest-growing economy in South Asia, if you look at the last five years.



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President bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended

Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.

In the battle of Afghanistan, we destroyed the Taliban


haha.

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The primary role of the mission it to vanquish an enemy that was/is clearly a threat to the peace and security of Canada.


If that were the case Canadian soldiers would be dieing in New York City, as America is the biggest threat to the world, not just Canada

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Whatever..

I've showed that the economy, healthcare, childcare and education have all improved for the average Afghan people. You could double or tripple those results if you focused just on 1/2 the population, the women and girls who were opressed under the taliban.

By any yardstick, Afghanistan is better today that it has been in the last decade.

You can rant on all you like but these are recognised facts.
You'll have to find another topic to attack Americans on because this mission is succeeding.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
Whatever..

I've showed that the economy, healthcare, childcare and education have all improved for the average Afghan people. You could double or tripple those results if you focused just on 1/2 the population, the women and girls who were opressed under the taliban.

By any yardstick, Afghanistan is better today that it has been in the last decade.

You can rant on all you like but these are recognised facts.
You'll have to find another topic to attack Americans on because this mission is succeeding.


R=UP They are better off right now than they were, and if we leave, it all goes for shit again, as their military is not up to snuf yet. They can not defend themselves yet, we have to give them a chance.

That's another thing they are doing over there, training the Afghan military to defend themselves. Once thats done, and the greatest threats are dealt with, we can go home. It's just going to take some time.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
Whatever..

I've showed that the economy, healthcare, childcare and education have all improved for the average Afghan people.


You've done no such thing.

For every post you want to post saying how good things are going in Afghanistan, another could be posted saying the opposite.



One simple fact is this.The entire(MISSION?) is a dismal failure and when the day comes that Canada leaves Afghanistan, nothing will have changed.
A few hundred Canadians will have died for nothing and billions of hard working Canadian tax payer dollars will have been wasted


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On September 5, 2006, the Senlis Council, a prominent think tank based in Britain, released a comprehensive report on the U.S./NATO occupation of Afghanistan. It says, “Five years of international presence in the country aimed at increasing the living standards of the Afghan population have failed to make any measured improvements in the accessibility and quality of health and educational services in most of Afghanistan, beyond the confines of Kabul.”

The report was compiled by a large number of researchers based in Afghanistan and it reveals a country living a social and humanitarian disaster.

“Despite promises from the U.S.-led international community guaranteeing to provide the resources and assistance necessary for its reconstruction and development needs, Afghanistan’s people are starving to death. Afghanistan continues to rank at the bottom of most poverty indicators, and the situation of women and children is particularly grave. One in four children born in Afghanistan cannot expect to live beyond the age of five, and certain provinces of the country lay claim to the worst maternal mortality rates ever recorded in the world”

According to Senlis, more than 70% of the Afghan population is chronically malnourished, while less than a quarter has access to safe drinking water.


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I think I'll believe the world health organization a little more than an independant think tank who sounds more concerned about heroin than the Afghan people. Since you didn't provide a link, I looked over their website and almost all of their interests revolve around heroin.

A little more digging resulted in a Pakistan newspaper

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«Afghan parliament wants opium lobby thrown out

KABUL: The upper house of Afghan parliament wants a London-based group pushing for the legalisation of Afghanistan’s huge opium crop to leave the country, the counternarcotics ministry said Saturday.

A meeting of the upper house last week decided the Senlis Council “should stop their activities in Afghanistan and leave this country,” the ministry said in a statement. The international think-tank has been pushing for Afghanistan to legalise its opium crop, which supplies up to 90 percent of the heroin used in Europe, saying crop eradication will never work. The group says opium production should be licenced and the crop used to make legal painkillers for developing countries, which it says have a growing demand for these drugs.»


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\05\28\story_28-5-2006_pg4_15

Here's a hint. Here's a newspaper and a link. That adds weight behind my words, not some drug addled european wingnuts who see Afghanistan as their pharmacy, not as a soverign country.


You say, nothing has changed yet there were thousands out for an election that never would have happened without foreign support. It's not perfect but we're not either. Their healtcare has improved and doctors can now treat women: do you refute that? Do you refute the bennefit of schools?

All you do is chant failure but can't show a shread of credable details,
Maybe you should lay off the heroin.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
I think I'll believe the world health organization a little more than an independant think tank who sounds more concerned about heroin than the Afghan people. Since you didn't provide a link, I looked over their website and almost all of their interests revolve around heroin.

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Aww yes.The old story I just believe those who tell me what I want to hear.

Funny how UN organizations suddenly have credibiliby when they do just that

Problem is your little link was from the world bank, not the WHO.

I think it is in the world banks interest to paint a rosy picture

So are you saying the quote I supplied was all lies, made up?

Sure you are






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According to the United Nations Human Rights Commission on Refugees, Afghanistan had 2.9 million refugees in 2005. That number is growing as a result of foreign military operations.

"The occupiers like to point to the region surrounding the capital city Kabul as proof of their accomplishments and good will."

But progress there is as elusive as in Iraq’s capital city, Baghdad. Open sewers line the streets. Rent for an intact home is too expensive for ordinary Afghans, forcing many to live in dilapidated and structurally unsound buildings. Residents of Kabul receive, at best, four hours of electricity a day.


Ride A Train thinks this is a bad thing

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The group says opium production should be licenced and the crop used to make legal painkillers for developing countries, which it says have a growing demand for these drugs.»


Figures

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You say, nothing has changed yet there were thousands out for an election that never would have happened without foreign support.


Hmm.Millions voted in Canadas last election, and nothing changed

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I think it's telling that I'm pulling up sites about Afghanistan while you're pulling up sites about heroin in Afghanistan.
[web]http://www.afghan-web.com/health/[/web]

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New study finds marked improvements in Afghanistan's health sector
Kabul, 26 April 2007 – Infant mortality rates in Afghanistan declined from an estimated 165 per 1,000 live births in 2001 to about 135 per 1,000 in 2006, according to preliminary findings of Johns Hopkins University (JHU) household survey. This means that 40,000 fewer infants are dying each year compared to during Taliban rule.


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Number of Afghan patients treated for TB doubled since 2001: UN WHO
The number of patients being treated for tuberculosis in Afghanistan has more than doubled since 2001, the United Nations World Health Organization (WHO) announced today, saying this could be the result of a dramatic improvement in the detection of cases.


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AFGHANISTAN-PAKISTAN: Polio knows no borders
ISLAMABAD, 22 March 2007 (IRIN) - Beginning on Sunday, a mammoth campaign to vaccinate close to 20 million children under five years of age will get under way in Afghanistan and Pakistan, employing tens of thousands of vaccinators.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:30 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
I think it's telling that I'm pulling up sites about Afghanistan while you're pulling up sites about heroin in Afghanistan.


Now its statements like that, that separate the mature, from the imature



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:37 pm
 


It's true. That may be you're best news source bit it's totally preoccupied with drugs and Euro anti-American bias.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:45 pm
 


Oh please ride a train.

You thought the world bank was the the world health organization


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Number of Afghan patients treated for TB doubled since 2001: UN WHO


Keep reading. There's a shitload of good news for you to refute.
That is, unkless you'd like to see schools burned, aid workers killed, woman not recieve medical aid, children not vacinated... etc.

All of those things, courtacy of the Taliban.


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