[BartSimpson]

Everyone's insane.

Cool.

[hwacker]

SadBlue wrote:

What's wrong with being a communist...

nothing, ask Rev_Blair he's one. and he seems to love it.

[Canadaka]

I don't think the idea of communism is all that bad, but in all its practices in the past it has failed horribly. But i think mostly because it was led by a dictator.

[Sharkull]

SadBlue wrote:

What's wrong with being a communist...

It has been proven an ineffective form of government. It is nice to dream about, but in the real world it just does not work. Human beings are just too selfish to work for the selfless betterment of society, and productivity suffers as a result. Less productivity = lower standard of living.

Some moderate socialist policies (welfare, public health care...) have their place, but the economy must be capitalism based in order to make these things possible. Communism, in its pure form, is a disaster waiting to happen.

[Sharkull]

Godz46 wrote:

Holly Crap! You guys really think that the Western Standard's poster was racist?

No, we don't. It was clearly a reference to pop-culture poking fun at the Liberals during the allegations of organized crime within the party.

The Liberals are so desperate right now to deflect attention away from the Adscam stuff that they are resorting to some pretty dirty politics. They are even willing to stoop so low as to compare a group of respected public representatives with such a disgusting organization as the Klan.

I sincerely hope the voters make the Liberals pay dearly for all they've done.

[Donny_Brasco]

Godz46 wrote:

Holly Crap! You guys really think that the Western Standard's poster was racist?

I don't think the Cons are racist,

I do think the Libs criminals.

Just like the Devine Conservatives in Saskatchewan...I'm just waiting to see some safe-deposit boxes with cash for the Liberal's election machine to be found.

I'm thinking mr. "I didn't know anything about it and if you can prove I did then I'll resign" may in fact be lieing about that too.

Hell, Mulrony got off on the Air Canada scandal, I'm sure Polly and his clown posse can figure a way out of this one.

[BartSimpson]

Canadaka wrote:

I don't think the idea of communism is all that bad, but in all its practices in the past it has failed horribly. But i think mostly because it was led by a dictator.

Communism has been shown to work quite effectively at a village or commune level where the community is small enough that everyone is accountable one to another.

Successful examples of this are the Amana Communities, the Amish, Israeli Kibbutzim, many African villages, and various and etc. varieties of communes. Employee-owned corporations and cooperatives are examples of Communism successfully expressed within a capitalistic free market.

But when the community is large enough for people to specialize in bureacratic professions the effectiveness immediately drops off as now you have a ruling class and a separate worker class. People don't like busting their ass all day only to have some glorified prick in a suit tell them they're not doing enough to support the new Five Year Plan.

The paradigm of the Communist and Free Market capitalist economies is that Communism PROHIBITS free market behavior but the free market could care less if you want to form a Communist commune.

Be a Communist if you want. Meet other Commies and form a cooperative.

I will not only not force you to be a capitalist I will fight for your right to live as you see fit.

But you see where I'm going here, right?

You get to be a Communist but that means I get to play in the stock market and reap the benefits of wise and shrewd investing and I get to keep the fruits of my labors all to myself if that is what I choose to do.

No one has ever been forced to invest a penny in a corporation. Ever.

Billions of people have been forced against their will to participate in Communist managed economies.

Once you have to force people to be Communist you inevitably sign the death warrant for your political system because people invariably resist force.

[Ruserious]

Sharkull wrote:

a group of respected public representatives

Eh?

Talk about your oxymorons..

[Donny_Brasco]

[Tory_canuck]

Tories are not racist.The CPC is the most culturally diverse in the House Of Commons.