[GreatBriton]

"Since the French Revolution of 1789, some three fourths of the nations in the world now describe themselves as republics. However only a very few could be actually said to be democracies.

In fact, of the more than 180 countries being member nations of the United Nations, only 26 could be probably regarded as true democracies. Of these twenty are Constitutional Monarchies. Many are either in the midst of a befuddled and laborious road to democracy, or are governed by totally despotic and undemocratic regimes.

Those countries, however, which had progressed towards a constitutional monarchical form of Government - few though they were - symbolise the very essence of a modern democracy. "

[Bigboy]

GreatBriton wrote:

Bigboy wrote:

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Queen Hilary the First

She hates Canada, it would be a good thing if you wanted Canada out of the commenwealth

The Queen LOVES Canada, it's one of her favourite places to visit. She visited Canada earlier this year.

Yeah i know the real Queen loves canada *l*

[WLDB]

Bigboy wrote:

GreatBriton wrote:

Bigboy wrote:

Quote:

Queen Hilary the First

She hates Canada, it would be a good thing if you wanted Canada out of the commenwealth

The Queen LOVES Canada, it's one of her favourite places to visit. She visited Canada earlier this year.

Yeah i know the real Queen loves canada *l*

Well I dont love her. Or the concept of Constitutional Monarchy. Too Imperialistic. The British Empire is gone and Canada is completely independent.

[Blue_Nose]

Hey, let's all read that original quote and realize it was a joke, and not in fact speaking of the REAL QUEEN!!

[Snap]

So the Queen is a dike?

[Jaime_Souviens]

GreatBriton wrote:

The Queen LOVES Canada, it's one of her favourite places to visit. She visited Canada earlier this year.

Well, it's the beer she comes for, that and the bass fishing...





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[Jaime_Souviens]

"Official Photographic Portrait of Her Majesty The Queen of Canada"

[Jaime_Souviens]

GreatBriton wrote:

"Since the French Revolution of 1789, some three fourths of the nations in the world now describe themselves as republics. However only a very few could be actually said to be democracies.

In fact, of the more than 180 countries being member nations of the United Nations, only 26 could be probably regarded as true democracies. Of these twenty are Constitutional Monarchies. Many are either in the midst of a befuddled and laborious road to democracy, or are governed by totally despotic and undemocratic regimes.

Those countries, however, which had progressed towards a constitutional monarchical form of Government - few though they were - symbolise the very essence of a modern democracy. "

This could be an argument for constitutional monarchy as a form of government,

Or, it could be an argument that it was almost always better to have been colonized by the British.


(The numbers of countries cited, since no lists are given, are impossible to verify or deny.)




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[CanadianLynx]

Hester wrote:

This is from the Queen's own website:

"Until the end of the 17th century, British monarchs were executive monarchs - that is, they had the right to make and pass legislation. Since the beginning of the eighteenth century, the monarch has become a constitutional monarch, which means that he or she is bound by rules and conventions and remains politically impartial.

On almost all matters he or she acts on the advice of ministers. While acting constitutionally, the Sovereign retains an important political role as Head of State, formally appointing prime ministers, approving certain legislation and bestowing honours.

The Queen also has important roles to play in other organisations, including the Armed Forces and the Church of England.

The Queen is the United Kingdom's Head of State. As well as carrying out significant constitutional functions, The Queen also acts as a focus for national unity, presiding at ceremonial occasions, visiting local communities and representing Britain around the world.

The Queen is also Head of the Commonwealth."

Under the constitution she has no real power and is merely a figurehead. Cost each British person 61 pence last year (also from her website.) She also pays taxes now, but she pays whatever she thinks she should pay.

Queen Removed from Diplomatic Documents

[CanadianLynx]

Canadian Monarchy...

How it Works...

[Snap]

How it really works...

The Queen, who embodies our values? And demostrates this by having children who have affairs and grandchildren who smoke dope and party till the wee hours...wearing the uniform of a NAZI...falsify school assignments and are given grades they haven't earned...join the army and look pretty in a uniform and will never see battle (Prince Andrewis more than likely the last Royal to fight in battle) and live free of taxes and have everyone else pay thier way through life.

I think the Russians had the right idea of wacking the Czar and all his family! Imagine the money they have saved on showing off their royal family.

Is there a single average Canadian that feel the Governor General is giving them what they need? Do they feel this old hag actually represents their view of Canadian values? How about the way she so freely spends your tax dollars on flying her old friends around the world at 5 million dollars a crack. I won't even go down the road of the renovations she had done on Albert Hull. As a home designer I could have built her a home twice the size of that dump and still had 50% of what she spent left in the tax payers pocket.

I hate watching people spend tax payers money in ways that I feel are disrespectful. I don't think a party that can spend ten years stealing form the Canadian people should still be in power. I can't for the life of me understand why it is that the people of two provinces can control all the provinces and say they speak for the majority. I can't for the life of me understand how one man's values can be forced on the whole of a country.

The only answer to all this is for Canada to break up and a Republic formed. Each province would have the laws the local people agree to. I know a majority of people out west don't want gay marriage, but do want public executions brought back into law, but the people of Ontario want more gays and less jail time...

Its a real f***** up country we live in.

[WLDB]

True. You cant satisfy everyone. I doubt there are many, if any who think the Governer General is a great way to spend our money. She is a waste.

As for the Liberal government stealing, every government would do that. Conservative or Liberal. They are all lying theives, interested in power and money. Im sure there's the odd one who genuinely want to help the country, but they are few and far between.

[Snap]

First off, I'm working on my poli-sci degree, so I know how slimmy politicians of all parties are. What appalls me about the Libarals is that they did this for ten years and never got caught. Then when they did get cuaght, they say it was only certain people doing this..."it wasn't me...it was him!"...give me a freaking break. The entire liberal party is dirtier than dirty and should be tossed out. Who ever gets in next will do the same thing, but they will be more underhanded and more than likely get away with it....So what's the answer???

Well, my point is that by dumping the confederation and making smaller republics, less coin leaves each state and the responsibility of ensuring proper spending is left in the hands of your state politicians and finding them guilty of improper use of funds is so much easier. Each politician should be held responsible for their cut of the budget. They should be able to account for ever dollar they spend to within a certain dollar value. As is, this assholes are given millions as a slush fund and we are supposed to trust they are spending it properly...Shit, if I can't account for ever dollar I spend on my drafting company taxes, I get a visit from the tax man looking to take away my left testicle...Why should those responsible be any different.

Beer time...

[EyeBrock]

Ok, your vision for the future is break Canada up and fire the Queen? Woo hoo, you are a true visionary.

Re Harry and the nazi uniform. Unfortunately the Brits have a cultural habit of dressing up as Germans/Nazi's as a bit of a lark. Most of us in the Military have done the same. It's all done in jest as we fought the bastards and lost thousands doing it. We watched our cities burn and waited for them to come, they didn't and we still remember. It's not glorification but ironic and tasteless humour, something the Brits excel at.

Andrew is a bit of a wanker but he did do his bit dodging exocets in the Falklands, you ever served or fought Snap?

I'm sure William and Harry will do a stint in Basra, nobody in the Brit military is spared an Iraq tour, they will be there. Whatever their faults, this lot (The Royals) are well aware that England expects every man to do his duty.

That might not be much in some of your cynical eyes but hey, there are lots of us who post in here who have a sense of duty, loyalty and national pride.

Some of us are also immigrants to Canada and take our oath seriously, it may appear trite to some, but that's what loyalty is about.
My loyalty is to Canada and her Queen and I have sworn that oath on a bible in front of hundreds of witnesses.
It may be archaic but it’s a link to our past, present and the future. It's a pity some of you don't care about your own culture, the monarchy has been part of Canada for 400 years. Maybe we should just erase the bits of our history you don't like or offend your particular brand of political correctness?

God bless Trudeau...........the architect of the de-anglicization of Canada.

[Tman1]