[Lemmy]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

Hi Lemmy. I understand I'm putting words in your mouth in a way. It's an expression, a manner of speaking - and based on average information from reading the media and some books. I think you're being critical of a manner of speaking. Don't worry, be happy.

And thanks for reading my posts. I know you are busy and so I don't ask you a lot of questions about economics and statistics. I have a couple of areas I looked up but I don't really have that much economics training.

I'm neither worried nor unhappy, dude. But saying things like "economists ________" is the same thing as "black people ________" or "women drivers __________". Blanket statements and over-generalizations don't make for sound argument.

[Bruce_the_vii]

That's true but people here would understand what I mean if I said "economists world wide seem to forget the rules of the road for writing mortgages in recent history".

[coaster_dot]

I still have this in my mind as something I still want to do. I have been thinking, learning, and experiencing a lot about this and I still want to go through with it. I am just afraid of the job market. But hopefully it will get better by the time I apply. There are so other options, but for now it's going to be the skill worker visa.

I would like to move to either Alberta or Manitoba.

[Lemmy]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

That's true but people here would understand what I mean if I said "economists world wide seem to forget the rules of the road for writing mortgages in recent history".

That is exactly the sort of phrase that I object to. Economists don't write mortgages. "Banker" and "economist" aren't synonyms.

[Guy_Fawkes]

coaster_dot wrote:

I still have this in my mind as something I still want to do. I have been thinking, learning, and experiencing a lot about this and I still want to go through with it. I am just afraid of the job market. But hopefully it will get better by the time I apply. There are so other options, but for now it's going to be the skill worker visa.

I would like to move to either Alberta or Manitoba.

I shocked you would even consider Manitoba.

[Strutz]

coaster_dot wrote:

I still have this in my mind as something I still want to do. I have been thinking, learning, and experiencing a lot about this and I still want to go through with it. I am just afraid of the job market. But hopefully it will get better by the time I apply. There are so other options, but for now it's going to be the skill worker visa.

I would like to move to either Alberta or Manitoba.

Re: Your concern about the job market - I know you are a college student and have a job. But I'm not sure what you are studying for or what are you doing for work now (Life guard at a pulic pool last I remember you mentioning) The more you have to offer skill-wise and education-wise opens more doors. It's good that you are doing your research on it.

I'm curious... from the time you apply for the visa how long it takes from there to go throught the porcess to reach that date that you can actually move?

[Bruce_the_vii]

Guy_Fawkes wrote:

coaster_dot wrote:

I still have this in my mind as something I still want to do. I have been thinking, learning, and experiencing a lot about this and I still want to go through with it. I am just afraid of the job market. But hopefully it will get better by the time I apply. There are so other options, but for now it's going to be the skill worker visa.

I would like to move to either Alberta or Manitoba.

I shocked you would even consider Manitoba.

Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba are your better bets. They are doing quite a bit better than Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver - the three centres. People in Alberta will tell you there's unemployment due to the world recession but it's not that deep and another boom is around the corner. My understanding is Manitoba didn't even go into recession in the last couple of years, actually kept growing. Pre-recession immigrants were landing good jobs in the West. Actually Americans with professional degrees can get in without applying to immigration, due to a provision in NAFTA.

[Guy_Fawkes]

What I mean is if he moved to Edmonton he would have indoor roller coasters and an international airport so he could fly and visit his favorate amusment parks...

[Bruce_the_vii]

Guy_Fawkes wrote:

What I mean is if he moved to Edmonton he would have indoor roller coasters and an international airport so he could fly and visit his favorate amusment parks...

I see your point.

[coaster_dot]

Strutz wrote:

coaster_dot wrote:

I still have this in my mind as something I still want to do. I have been thinking, learning, and experiencing a lot about this and I still want to go through with it. I am just afraid of the job market. But hopefully it will get better by the time I apply. There are so other options, but for now it's going to be the skill worker visa.

I would like to move to either Alberta or Manitoba.

Re: Your concern about the job market - I know you are a college student and have a job. But I'm not sure what you are studying for or what are you doing for work now (Life guard at a pulic pool last I remember you mentioning) The more you have to offer skill-wise and education-wise opens more doors. It's good that you are doing your research on it.

I'm curious... from the time you apply for the visa how long it takes from there to go throught the porcess to reach that date that you can actually move?

I am going to school for Visual Communications. Which is computer graphics, motion graphics, and web development along with video, photo, and animation production. It's a very broad degree. I will graduate this up coming fall and after wards I would also like to get a Photography and Telecasting degree. Nice thing is, those are all related pretty closely. So getting those extra degrees won't take long at all.

Problems with this, with the skilled worker visa in order to get enough points I would need to be working for at least 2 years. However I don't know what the requirements of that would be. However, "Photography" is on the list for the skilled work which is a plus.

Other Options (these aren't really aren't solid plans but are "if's")

-Go to school. It would be expensive, and I don't know where I would go. And then I think after 6 months I can apply to get an "extended" visa.
-Marriage. This won't happen, and I would never marry just for a visa. But I know others do this. But you never know I guess. I had a thing with a girl from Ontario a while back. We still talk and I don't want to sound weird at all. But I guess I will never know what can happen. Especially if I travel a lot, I always meet new people.
-Work at "Canada's Wonderland Theme Park" for a season. They will hire me I know, they hire anyone as they are always short staffed, and I can get housing offered by them. However it would be a season of hell. Minimum wage, terrible operations, ect. However, the park is in Toronto. And if I had my degree I could do freelance in the city for some extra cash. But I don't know how taxes or anything like that would work. I still would have to look into it.
-Get a different degree of something in demand (in the medical field). My school offers XRay Tech along with a lot of other 2 years degrees that are medical. It would be a lot easier to line up a job, have the company do all the paper work, move in a lot faster. I was also thinking IT since I like tinkering around with computers and already have some experience.

The Skilled Worker Visa, as I have heard, will take at least 2 years. However, I have read that it only took some people 1 year by the time they applied to the time they landed. But I don't know if moving from the US is different then moving in from lets say...China.

Guy_Fawkes wrote:

What I mean is if he moved to Edmonton he would have indoor roller coasters and an international airport so he could fly and visit his favorate amusment parks...

You bring up a very good point Airport will be a must, although I really don't like Air Canada. One good thing about Manitoba would be that I could save half off on my airfare, or more, by driving 6 hours to Minneapolis then flying around the US since that would probably be most of my travel.

There are a lot of options and I know it can be done. But I still have a long road a head of me. I would like to say 5 years by the time I could do this and land, but I would be willing to go as long as 10 years honestly. It's be about 14 months since I have joined this site. And those 14 months have flown by. So really if best case is 5 years, I'm sure it will fly by.

But time being, it more traveling, more exploring, and more learning for me

[PostFactum]

I'm not a very big fan of emigration, but was thinking about it. What country would I chose, of course Canada, there are more Ukrainians than in some parts of Ukraine . In every moment I can put all things that I have in one valise. My afraid is only about 3 things, my friends, my relatives and thing that in one day, when I'll be older and will have something that I've get during my life and in emigrant decision to another country will lose that. So have to do this as faster as younger I am, because later it will be to late.

[kenmore]

My idea of immigrants is .... be educated, speak English and French or at least one of them fluently. be able to work and contribute to society. Be willing to integrate. Enjoy the rights we all enjoy and keep your religion to yourself and don't try and change us. And last but not least..if you left your country because of political or religious strife... leave the shit behind!

[Bruce_the_vii]

Coaster_dot says:

-Get a different degree of something in demand (in the medical field). My school offers XRay Tech along with a lot of other 2 years degrees that are medical. It would be a lot easier to line up a job, have the company do all the paper work, move in a lot faster. I was also thinking IT since I like tinkering around with computers and already have some experience.

There's a list of some 31 shortages at this time that the government is concerned about. The list tends to be medical specialties like Xray technician. While these are on the governments short list for now there is no news in the papers that the governments are increasing training in the mean time. So the medical shortages may persist.

IT is problematic. There maybe deep unemployment in the IT field in Canada now. Much of the employment is marginal. I know my own degree in Computer Science has zero market value.