[Scape]

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In November, Elizabeth May was twice denied the House’s consent to mark Remembrance Day. This afternoon she was apparently denied an opportunity to join the Conservatives, New Democrats and Liberals in honouring Vaclav Havel. Justin Trudeau is unimpressed.

Conservatives just refused to let party leader @ElizabethMay rise to pay tribute to Vaclav Havel. He was a champion of free speech. #irony

Update 5:23pm. Here is the video (such as it is) of the incident. Citing an anonymous MP, Ms. May says Government House leader Peter Van Loan was one of those who spoke up to deny her consent. I emailed Mr. Van Loan’s office to ask if he had indeed spoken up. In response, I received only a copy of text of the standing order that applies in such situations. I restated my original question and will update this post if or when I hear back.

Update 7:03pm. Still waiting to hear back from Mr. Van Loan’s office. In the meantime, here is the statement Ms. May says she would have delivered.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

And thank you to those who have just spoken to the spirit and inspiration or an extraordinary human being. I was particularly moved by the words of my friend, the Hon. Member from Toronto Centre. Václav Havel’s life was of the order of Nelson Mandela, or Aung San Suu Kyi. His genius as a playwright and poet put him also in the company of Ken Saro-Wiwa, who was murdered by the Abacha regime in Nigeria. Totalitarian regimes dislike the free speech of satirists and poets.

It was a nearly miraculous change of fate that both Mandela and Havel overthrew the oppression of earlier governments to become presidents.

It is the nature of a poet, a creative genius like Havel, to refuse to accept the world as he found it. An unlikely politician, Havel never lost sight of his complex humanity.

I wish to share his own words with you and ask that we seek to emulate them:

“Let us teach ourselves that politics cannot just be the art of the possible, especially if that means the art of speculation, calculation, intrigue, secret deals and pragmaticmaneuvering, but that it can even be the art of the impossible, namely the art of improving ourselves and the world.”

Let light perpetual shine upon him and let us live inspired by his example.

[martin14]

*yawn*


If the Greens ever get party status, then they can say something.


Just cause she is big enough to fill 5 seats doesnt mean she gets extra reps in the House.

[ShepherdsDog]

Gotta wonder why they don't muzzle her in the House...not to stop her whine perse, but to ensure she doesn't damage any of the ornate woodwork in the chamber......oh God it's a full moon she's gone were-beaver!!

[GreenTiger]

martin14 wrote:

*yawn*


If the Greens ever get party status, then they can say something.


Just cause she is big enough to fill 5 seats doesnt mean she gets extra reps in the House.

[Thanos]

If May hadn't been known already for mouthing off about Canadian troops in Afghanistan in a derogatory manner and for doing other stupid/vile things like going to pro-Hezbollah rallies then she wouldn't have been blocked from making an official statement. Too bad for her but what the leader of a political party says actually matters and has consequences when something too over-the-top gets irresponsibly spouted off. We've already got the NDP to be as embarrassing as they possibly can when it comes to foreign matters so we don't need the leader of the Greens just repeating the obnoxiousness of what the Dippers tend to say with alarming frequency.

[Scape]

They should have allowed her to speak. She speaks for her riding and party not just herself.

[martin14]

Scape wrote:

They should have allowed her to speak. She speaks for her riding and party not just herself.

According to House rules, there is no Green Party in Parliament... needs 12 seats.

And Saanich is one riding of 535.. if we let that cow moo, then we can let
all of them bray, and Parliament can start working in .............

Well, it never will.

[BartSimpson]

Vaclav Havel detested leftists and May speaking in his memory is wildly inappropriate.

[maldonsfecht]

BartSimpson wrote:

Vaclav Havel detested leftists and May speaking in his memory is wildly inappropriate.

After having lived in the Czech Republic for 5 years, and having the opportunity to hear him speak, it truly is a loss for that country and the rest of the freedom-loving world. That the Communist Party is still represented in Czech elections and is holding on in the privileged youth, college-age vote (che guevara shirts and backpack patches crowd) despite the adults knowing full well the degradations of living under that system was aggravating to say the least. These kids don't remember standing in line at the markets for a banana or orange (pick one) and maybe getting a chance to go to Tuzex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuzex.

Tried to up you one there Bart, but got this:

>>You must spread your reputation point to other users before giving to the same user.

Return to the previous page>>

[maldonsfecht]

martin14 wrote:

Scape wrote:

They should have allowed her to speak. She speaks for her riding and party not just herself.

According to House rules, there is no Green Party in Parliament... needs 12 seats.

And Saanich is one riding of 535.. if we let that cow moo, then we can let
all of them bray, and Parliament can start working in .............

Well, it never will.

now there's the laugh I needed today!

[BartSimpson]

maldonsfecht wrote:

After having lived in the Czech Republic for 5 years, and having the opportunity to hear him speak, it truly is a loss for that country and the rest of the freedom-loving world. That the Communist Party is still represented in Czech elections and is holding on in the privileged youth, college-age vote (che guevara shirts and backpack patches crowd) despite the adults knowing full well the degradations of living under that system was aggravating to say the least. These kids don't remember standing in line at the markets for a banana or orange (pick one) and maybe getting a chance to go to Tuzex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuzex.

And the young communists on this site don't know how people risked their lives trying to escape the prison that was Warsaw Pact Europe.

maldonsfecht wrote:

Tried to up you one there Bart, but got this:

>>You must spread your reputation point to other users before giving to the same user.

Return to the previous page>>

It's the thought that counts! Thank you!