[Zipperfish]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

I'm struck by what a nube Ignatieff actually is. This month he gave a policy speech and came out with some priorities, for which the country has no money. So he's gone from trying to call an election without a platform to a platform for which he has no money. The guy is a woolly headed professor. Nubes like this are brought to us by God for our entertainment. I'm sure you have your own lines about the great fellow so you might as well post a couple for my entertainment.

Well, I'll give Igantieff this: he's developed policies. You, on the other hand, have nothing except an anti-Ignatieff agenda. A thinking person would conclude that since your only service seems to be criticism, then you'd be best suited to the opposition.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Zipperfish wrote:

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

I'm struck by what a nube Ignatieff actually is. This month he gave a policy speech and came out with some priorities, for which the country has no money. So he's gone from trying to call an election without a platform to a platform for which he has no money. The guy is a woolly headed professor. Nubes like this are brought to us by God for our entertainment. I'm sure you have your own lines about the great fellow so you might as well post a couple for my entertainment.

Well, I'll give Igantieff this: he's developed policies. You, on the other hand, have nothing except an anti-Ignatieff agenda. A thinking person would conclude that since your only service seems to be criticism, then you'd be best suited to the opposition.

Actually although I'm not in charge of running the country I do have a platform theme for the Liberals, which I posted in my "There's no economists" thread. In addition there are some popular initiatives been talked about on the street that the Liberal caucus, but not Ignatieff, know about. Ignatieff's announced plans are all spending, disappear the day after they are announced and aren't generally believable. So there.

Anti-Ignatieff? The guy is very unpopular with his elected MP caucus. He's got some real leadership issues that will become clearer over time.

[Zipperfish]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

Actually although I'm not in charge of running the country I do have a platform theme for the Liberals, which I posted in my "There's no economists" thread. In addition there are some popular initiatives been talked about on the street that the Liberal caucus, but not Ignatieff, know about. Ignatieff's announced plans are all spending, disappear the day after they are announced and aren't generally believable. So there.

Anti-Ignatieff? The guy is very unpopular with his elected MP caucus. He's got some real leadership issues that will become clearer over time.

Boy, you've only hot one tune and you just whistle it over and over again. I hope teh CPC is paying you for all your efforts.

I think Ignatieff is a dud. I think people thought that since he was a world-class intellect on policy issues, he'd be a natch for the job. But politics and policy are two different animals. Plus, I think his natural instincts are closer to the ideology of the Conservatives than the Liberals.

[bootlegga]

Zipperfish wrote:

I think Ignatieff is a dud. I think people thought that since he was a world-class intellect on policy issues, he'd be a natch for the job. But politics and policy are two different animals. Plus, I think his natural instincts are closer to the ideology of the Conservatives than the Liberals.

Or that he fits more as a pre-Trudeau Liberal than a current gen Liberal.

I've met him here in Edmonton and he gave a great I think his biggest problem is that his intellect doesn't translate well on TV or the Web. I think in an old fashioned kind of election campaign (say pre 1960s), he'd do fine, but with HD TV, pundits galore on 24/7 news networks, blogs, etc, he doesn't stand a chance.

I was hoping he'd be a throwback to the old school Liberals, but unfortunately he isn't.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Zipperfish wrote:

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

Actually although I'm not in charge of running the country I do have a platform theme for the Liberals, which I posted in my "There's no economists" thread. In addition there are some popular initiatives been talked about on the street that the Liberal caucus, but not Ignatieff, know about. Ignatieff's announced plans are all spending, disappear the day after they are announced and aren't generally believable. So there.

Anti-Ignatieff? The guy is very unpopular with his elected MP caucus. He's got some real leadership issues that will become clearer over time.

Boy, you've only hot one tune and you just whistle it over and over again. I hope teh CPC is paying you for all your efforts.

I think Ignatieff is a dud. I think people thought that since he was a world-class intellect on policy issues, he'd be a natch for the job. But politics and policy are two different animals. Plus, I think his natural instincts are closer to the ideology of the Conservatives than the Liberals.

Actually I have two tunes plus. I only post one here as the other is contrabrand, about criminal allegations at the conservative cabinet. I won't post those, however I have money riding on the Liberals winning.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Ignatieff is moving down the plank quite nicely. One old Grandma wondered alound "if he is a politician." There's five weeks left for his summer meet the people. Ha, ha, ha.

[Bruce_the_vii]

We read that Harper is in tight control of his caucus and that Michael Ignatieff is actually much the same on the other side of the floor of the house of commons. I think actually they are a bit out of control, not in control.

[Bruce_the_vii]

I see Michael Ignatieff as a Claude Ryan. Claude Ryan, for those who can't place the name, was a long time Quebec journalist and intellectual that took over the Quebec Liberal Party Leadership based on his public profile. After a while, I forget how long, it was just announced he was stepping down. They decided he didn't have the personality to run a political party. The problem is that Ignatieff may simply not get that he isn't working out, is a bad boss.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Here's the latest on Ignatieff's policy. He's gotten around to saying there is no money and there'll be no major policy promises.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... gram-plans

He's relying on small policy differences to sway voters. So that is honest. I don't see much of a swing to the Liberals.

[Bruce_the_vii]

I'm going to bump this post once only. This is something definitive about the Ignatieff Liberal's policy. We all knew it but it took him some 24 months to get around to saying it. There's no money.

[ASLplease]

Iggy is an embarrassment.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Ignatieff is saying Post Secondary Education will be a priority policy of the Liberals in the next election. He's pointing to the debt load on students and training aboriginal's. He says he has limited priorities and this is one. I know you don't care, Canadians don't care, about what Ignatieff thinks but here's the link.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Edu ... story.html

One problem is he has no money. He's totally confounded by the simple fact there's deficit and debt and he can't bribe the people with their own money. It cramps his style.

The other thing is the education nut has been worked by politicians for 40 years. You need a job, the government will expand training. Part of the problems facing students at this time is education is over invested and even if you do get schooling you face a crowded employment market. Education has been politicians answer for 40 years and it's all ready taken care of. Education is "a simple" answer.