Marcarc
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:20 pm
That last post was very interesting, and more constructive than most of the vitriol I see on the Canada-Quebec debates. So I thought I'd add my two cents (or dime, whatevers in my pocket).
<br /> 1. There's no doubt that the actual border would have to be discussed. It may be simpler in the end to simply leave the borders as they are, since it was the federal government which set it up. However, it's a given that natives will make noise-as they should-and in fact it would benefit them immensely as Quebec and Canada would basically want to offer them the best deal for their support.
<br />2. I'm not sure what this would mean. An international body to...what? Plow the highway? I have a feeling that no Quebecer wants to see serious passport or custom waits at borders, but I don't see the value in having a 'super-organization' which operates over and above the powers of the respective countries.
<br />3. Trade is a huge issue, although as most on this site are aware, the 'free trade' we have with the states is more of a document to enshrine investor rights than free up trade. That there would be a trade agreement is a given, what form it takes is complicated.
<br />4. Compensation is another tricky one. This would be something that the United Nations would be involved in or some other international accounting body.
<br />5. This is another tricky one. Since the purpose of separation is sovereignty that's like GB telling Ireland that it has to have a built in clause for rejoining Great Britain. If, for example, an english 'rejoin canada' party ran for election and won, it could then hold a referendum much as the ones now. If that referendum passed, then there would be discussions. Canada, of course, would be under no obligation to accept them.
<br />6, 8, and ten have to do with Canada, not Quebec. If a separate province were to be set up in Ontario, dividing it in two, that's up to Canada's federal government and has nothing to do with Quebec.
<br />7. Fishing rights would have to be debated as well. I would imagine that the simplest route would be to maintain the fishing boundaries set up by the feds now.
<br />9. This question I find completely hypocritical. Canada has honoured virtually NONE of it's treaties with natives and so to insist Quebec do something that we have never done is pretty outlandish. I understand that in english canada the fear is that Quebec could turn into some fascist gulag where natives are oppressed. This, of course, defines canada from a natives point of view and it could hardly be worse, and would probably be better as Quebec would know all eyes are on it.
<br />11. I think this is a given, and I doubt there are many in Quebec that would argue against it. Certainly all the last referendums were provincially funded, however, the federal government may want to spend some money making their case.
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