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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:48 pm
 


I don't know what it means to have a 'strong' law, but I know we've got the 2nd-highest incarceration rate in the western world, which I'm not really proud of. There should definitely be consequences for people who wrongly imprison others, if there aren't any already.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:36 pm
 


Where are all our good patriotic lawyers, when we need one??



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:08 pm
 


I understand what you mean, too many people in jail, a lot of them because they did not have the money for a lawyer or a good defence but I am talking about the malice use of the courts to put away innocent people. I can think of three people found to innocent after convictions that were arrived at from testiomy or from evidence hidden by the cops or prosecutors. A musican, a "hippie" and a musican! As far as I know no one has paid any price for what they did to these men.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:15 am
 


Don't forget there are a lot of people in Canadian jails because of paltry drug convictions, just another way for the government to show how much we want to be like America...and as far as wrongfully accused and innocent people in jail, look at the news, we tell ourselves that this is a innocent until proven guilty, lets stop fooling ourselves...the court of the media always gets there say in though don't they? Spreading aroung half truths and sometimes outright lies about people who have yet to be tried by an unbiased group of their peers



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[QUOTE BY= Carley] Don't forget there are a lot of people in Canadian jails because of paltry drug convictions, just another way for the government to show how much we want to be like America...and as far as wrongfully accused and innocent people in jail, look at the news, we tell ourselves that this is a innocent until proven guilty, lets stop fooling ourselves...the court of the media always gets there say in though don't they? Spreading aroung half truths and sometimes outright lies about people who have yet to be tried by an unbiased group of their peers[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Drugsa are for retards and serve absolutely no purpose to our society. I say its a good thing that people go to jail for it I mean if they can't look after themselves its obvious we need to do it for them. <br /> <br />On that note i think Canada should be pursuing a war on drugs and killing all producers of any drugs <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'> <br /> <br />Fucking crackheads


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[QUOTE BY= Stymiest] <br />Drugsa are for retards and serve absolutely no purpose to our society. I say its a good thing that people go to jail for it I mean if they can't look after themselves its obvious we need to do it for them. <br /> <br />On that note i think Canada should be pursuing a war on drugs and killing all producers of any drugs <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'> <br /> <br />Fucking crackheads[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />If that is not an abuse and misuse of the justice system I don't know what is. Here is why the "War on Drugs" is a fallacy: <br /> <br />First, how do you intend to rehabilitate those guilty for drug possession by incarcerating them with murders, rapists, or other violent offenders? There is a big difference between those who grow some pot, and those who make cocaine or crystal meth. <br /> <br />Second, as you say, "drugs are for retards" wouldn't drug use/addiction constitute a mental illness? So you are saying "it's a good thing to incarcerate the mentally ill because they become addicted to drugs and they are mentally deficient". You know the nazis exterminated the mentally retarded... why would you want to take the expense of sheltering, feeding, and clothing them when they can be "cured" much more cheaply with a "9mm pill". No, thanks, discrimation of ANY type does NOT help our society. <br /> <br />Third, prison is neither sufficiently equipped to treat mental illness nor drug addiction. Why should all attempts at rehabilitation be foregone when their is a decent chance a person's addiction can be cured outside of prison? <br /> <br />Fourth, http://www.drugwarfacts.org/ <br /> <br />The War on Drugs has been going on for decades and was expanded under Edgar J Hoover, a virulent racist and blackmailer. The "War on Drugs" has been proven to be a failure, because just like the "War on Terror", its a battle fought entirely on the grounds of ethnicity, ideology, fear, and most of all hate.



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Uhh.. yeah, the war on drugs is a load of crock. Drug prohibition's roots can be traced back to blatant racism. Take a look at the anti-asian riots in vancouver in the early 1900's (around 1908, I believe). The result was the Opium Act. <br /> <br />Then there was that racist Janey Canuck (one of the famous women who won the women's vote), who published articles referencing non-existent studies (a la 'reefer madness') in order to have marijuana added to the Opium Act. <br /> <br />Pot's a narcotic? How about alcohol? Nicotine? Arsenic? Opium? Herbal tea? Bath salts? Nyquil? <br /> <br />What about all those traditional chinese herbal medicines? The only reason they are given more credibility than pot is because pot came from Mexico into the US at a time when the media was controlled by harsh racists. And Canada followed suit in banning it thanks mostly to Janey Canuck. <br /> <br />Stymiest, before you make crude blanket statements, take a look at the history behind the laws. <br /> <br />[QUOTE]"I say it's a good thing that people go to jail for it I mean if they can't look after themselves, it's obvious we need to do it for them." -Stymiest[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Sending a pot head to live with rapists and murders? Wow, you're such a humane fella to look out for them like that.



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