[rearguard]

According to the Canadian Charter:<br /> <br /> 33. (1) Parliament or the legislature of a province may expressly declare in an Act of Parliament or of the legislature, as the case may be, that the Act or a provision thereof shall operate notwithstanding a provision included in section 2 or sections 7 to 15 of this Charter.<br /> <br /> So there you have it, whatever rights we may think we have can be nullified by an Act of Parliament or the legislature. In addition, the Supreme Court may nullify any right and freedom that is listed in the Charter for any reason it alone deems justifiable. The Supreme court is made out of political appointees that are not held accountable to the public for their decisions.<br />

[Chris Harder]

They may not be held accountable (cough) IN THEORY. Let me understand this: Are we to believe that those who make the decision and impose will be, what, tucked away safe and secure from the general public once martial law is declared? Don't we have their names and addresses? They are after all just Canadian citizens, pardon me, 'civil servants' who we have elected to serve us!<br /> <br /> Additionally, we don't have enough of our own troops to do this and I highly doubt they would be willing to do it either. Most certainly we can expect foreign UN troops to be used to disarm, torture and kill us. <br /> <br /> Down with the UN and Canada out! Down with The Emergency Act and Martial Law! Up with Freedom, Liberty and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms!

[Diogenes]

Sad to say Chris or subsequent genersation the went out in the sixties and seventies and we still got the same shit <br /> My sole purpose for being here is to somehow spark action <br /> and by even the most ridiculous of meand <br /> prayer vigals <br /> <br /> but th owners of the univers know , truely know as long as there are toys for us to play with ( bread and circus) entertainment and <br /> that carrot call 'sucess"<br /> we will be obedient drones and not take action<br /> Ed Deak has found a way <br /> it is to late for us <br /> so drink up , toke up and shut up!

[rearguard]

Funny that the peace and freedom loving 60's and 70's generation that is now ruling the roost appear to be even worst abusers of power than their predecessors. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we're giving them all the power they need by sitting on our collective asses and eating up the never ending pile of bullshit that they happily serve up with a smile.

[rearguard]

"Are we to believe that those who make the decision and impose will be, what, tucked away safe and secure from the general public once martial law is declared?"<br /> <br /> Yes, they will hide away in their fortresses. Look at the SPP meetings they attended, there was no shortage of protection was there?<br /> <br /> "Don't we have their names and addresses? They are after all just Canadian citizens, pardon me, 'civil servants' who we have elected to serve us!"<br /> <br /> No they don't serve us and we'd have to get past their legions of murderous body guards first. Yes it's doable provided enough of us are willing to die while trying, and that means the cause has to be great enough. Revolutions normally only happen when enough of the population reaches a point of desperation with little to lose. Our "leaders" know this, and they'll do their best to make sure we're all nice and fat with plenty of toys to play with.<br /> <br /> "I highly doubt they would be willing to do it either."<br /> <br /> Don't be so sure of that. We saw US troops fire and kill unarmed protesters back in the 70's. So long as the soldier thinks that his orders are justified he will carry it out, and it does not take much to convince a soldier that what he's doing is the right thing. We see them blowing up defenseless women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan, and there's no shortage of these murderous assholes to do the deed.<br /> <br /> "Most certainly we can expect foreign UN troops to be used to disarm, torture and kill us."<br /> <br /> Absolutely. The former Soviet Union learned to use troops from one region to shoot up another as it went down better. Expect to see troops from Quebec shooting at people in Alberta, and troops from Alberta shooting at people in Quebec, etc. It'll be a fun mix 'n match game for our glorious leaders to play.<br /> <br /> "Down with the UN and Canada out! Down with The Emergency Act and Martial Law! Up with Freedom, Liberty and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms!"<br /> <br /> In oder to get there, we'll have to make sacrifices. It starts by refusing to be subjected to their crap. You have to refuse to travel by plane, refuse to cooperate with the police and other government institutions, you have to quit your cushy government job if you have one, you have to stop buying their toys, and you have to learn how to become as self-sufficient as possible so that they cannot hold you hostage with your basic needs (and so on).<br />

[Diogenes]

"How does our constitution protect us from martial law?"<br /> <br /> In reality it won't as we are not Signatories to it it may have been signed on our behalf. Big Dif<br /> and exactlly which court would hear our plea?<br /> <br /> <br /> Who can impose martial law in Canada and under which circumstances?<br /> <br /> The PM and at his pleasure<br /> <br /> Finally, IF the US government imposes martial law is it probable that our government will also impose martial law in Canada?<br /> probable being the optimum word, Perhaps <br /> <br /> edited to add,<br /> <br /> http://mondoglobo.ning.com/group/questionauthority/forum/topic/show?id=1509099%3ATopic%3A2937 <br /> some of the stuff found here may happen in Canaduh and some probably has

[uwish]

yup the charter is a peace of toilet paper. A complete joke if you ask me.

[sasquatch2]

The constitution and charter were written by trudooh and company. It is no accident this provision is there and we lack the right to own property.
And then there is this desperate enactment of firearms laws......

[Diogenes]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

The constitution and charter were written by trudooh and company. It is no accident this provision is there and we lack the right to own property.
And then there is this desperate enactment of firearms laws......

Have you made a formal claim of rights?

Do you know that in order to have rights you must claim them?

DFo you know the process to claim your rights?

[Xort]

rearguard rearguard:

Don't be so sure of that. We saw US troops fire and kill unarmed protesters back in the 70's. So long as the soldier thinks that his orders are justified he will carry it out, and it does not take much to convince a soldier that what he's doing is the right thing. We see them blowing up defenseless women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan, and there's no shortage of these murderous assholes to do the deed.

As one of those murderous assholes, I must say your a brave man to make such comments publicly. Aren't you scared that once we move to secure our control over the nation that we wouldn't check to find people that could pose troubles to our new rule?