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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:50 am
 


An RCMP detachment in a suburb of Victoria, B.C., is being accused of misusing a Taser stun gun on a 15-year-old boy who was being arrested for disobeying a court-ordered curfew for a mischief charge.

The boy was combative while being arrested and he was shocked at least two times, once in the leg and once in the chest, according to a West Shore RCMP report about the March 21 incident.

"The conducted energy weapon was deployed because the individual was combative and kicking at the officers, and it was important for officer safety to control that individual," RCMP spokeswoman Tasha Adams told CBC News Wednesday.

The report said the boy was attempting to wriggle out of a police car when an officer fired a Taser shot into his leg. Shortly after, the boy began kicking the police-car door from the inside and the officer decided to use the Taser again, on the boy's chest, the report says.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:35 am
 


http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=na ... of+Control


Having visited a few of the sites Google has on file and reading some of them it is easy to tell there is a wide division in beliefs about the attitude of the RCMP.

Those that defend them are blind to or make excuses for the brutality and those who criticize the RCMP seem not to see the good, if any, done by the RCMP.

The former RCMP officers I have met socially through out my life, without exception, will justify what actions taken by the Force, and force* it is. Force is not a gentle word as you can see by the list below and while force is the action of choice when deal ing with ‘stubborn’ objects it hardly seems necessary while handling human beings.

The reliance on (and don’t you just ‘love’ the newspeak phrase, conducted energy weapon?) gadgetry; pepper spray, Tazers and the like does little to enhance the perception of the police.




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Force was found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary at the entries listed below.
• force (PHYSICAL POWER)
• force (INFLUENCE)
• force (GIVE NO CHOICE)
• force (IN OPERATION)
• force (GROUP)
• air force
• Air Force One
• force-feed
• labour force
• Marshal of the Royal Air Force
• police force
• sales force
• strike force
• task force
• tour de force
• a force to be reckoned with
• force of habit
• force a laugh/smile
• force an/the issue
• force sb's hand
• by (sheer) force/weight of numbers
• force/ram sth down sb's throat



"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

William Blake

"To acquire knowledge, one must study;
but to acquire wisdom, one must observe."


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:55 am
 


"conducted energy weapon"

Yeah I love that new line. Understandably, they won't use the more descriptive line of "electrocution weapon that may kill you".

How can anyone justify electrocuting and possibly killing a handcuffed teenager who's being "combative"?

Note that the term "combative" brings up images of a trained soldier with an AK-47 that's firing off rounds during a military assault! The use of Newspeak would be comical if this were only fiction, but they really are seriously dreaming up these lines with the intent of manipulating public perception, but I digress ...

The boy in question was doing nothing more than refusing to submit to an assumed authority that was trying to modify his anti-social behaviour through use of force. The boy in question no doubt needs help, but beating him up with electric shocks is not the kind of help that he needs, and if anything the boy will end up being even more angry at society than he already is.

The problem is that the police have been given a green light to kill people if they use electrocution as the means, and it's justified because electrocution has been deemed to be "nonlethal".

However we have more than enough evidence (as if it was not obvious from the start) that electrocuting people can and does often kill. Electrocution is also a preferred means of torture because it leaves behind little evidence in the way of physical marks, which opens up the potential for it to be used by the police for torturing a victim.

What we have going on here, is the use of a device for the purpose of torturing people into submission, and if the victim resists too much (and sometimes even without any resistance), the victim can be "legally" murdered for it.

Ironically, things were better when the police had nothing but guns and clubs to resort to, because everyone knew that the use of these weapons were both brutal and lethal AND the use left behind visible signs of physical trauma, which for those reasons had limited their use.

Obviously the police need tools in order to do their jobs, but the use of electrocution as a tool should be slotted right along side the use of guns and clubs as a potentially lethal weapon, to be used only as a last resort when an officers life or those of the public are clearly at risk.

A teenager kicking at a car door is hardly putting anyone at risk other than the teenager himself (who could hurt his feet) and that of the car.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:00 am
 


Also note that the boy who was electrocuted now fears for his own safety and is afraid to file a formal complaint against the RCMP. This is a pretty bad situation if you ask me, when members of the public have come to fear the police who are supposedly there to protect them.


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"This is a pretty bad situation if you ask me, when members of the public have come to fear the police who are supposedly there to protect them."

Amen to that!~
I fear them

I know others who do as well
They are feared because they can and do, abuse their positions, and the courts will back them up.
There are no checks and balances within the legak system. The only
sensible avenue open to the public is knowledge of law. Knowledge will stop them, the law and the police in their tracks

more after reboot.

Now Ive rebooted I will add this


http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com/in ... iew/29/33/

Scroll to here, Marc Stevens Interview (Full)
And play it



"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:51 am
 


An ex high ranking Ottawa mountie I was talking to a few days ago said " The RCMP is a great police force . No, I take that back. Actually they are a national embarassment , total goons ,acting like a bunch of total assholes. Thank god I'm no longer one of them"
Brent


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