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The voice-activated Siri assistant on Apple's iPhone 4S is a direct challenge to Google's search engine, chairman Eric Schmidt said.

"Apple has launched an entirely new approach to search technology with Siri, its voice-activated search and task-completion service built into the iPhone 4S," Schmidt acknowledged in a written response to lawmakers released Friday by the Senate antitrust subcommittee.

He also pointed to challenges from social networks like Facebook, micro-blogging website Twitter and traditional competitors such as Microsoft's Bing.

"Social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter also allow users to leverage their social networks to find answers to their questions. Google is therefore competing with all methods available to access information on the Internet, not just other general search engines," Schmidt wrote.

"The source of Facebook's competition with Google is not only through using Bing to search the Internet but, also by offering users a fundamentally different way to discover and connect with information on the Internet."

Respected technology site TechCrunch has already described Siri, introduced last month, as Apple's "entry point" into the search engine business, while a Forbes commentator has called the service a "Google killer."

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/siri-challenge ... 22312.html

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Odd he'd say that considering Android has had these types of capabilities for over a year.

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Siri ONLY be used on the 4S model iPhone, it needs to gain a little wider availability before it can be called a threat.

Google is getting a little jumpy methinks.

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When you're queuing Siri it is searching directly it's not using a third-party app so when you ask it to search it doesn't search google unless you tell it to so it completely bypasses the search engine that's why you could make Google irrelevant.

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http://www.bizgene.com/8158989/apple-v- ... of-choice/


Apple has 4% of market but 52% of profits

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Scape wrote:

When you're queuing Siri it is searching directly it's not using a third-party app so when you ask it to search it doesn't search google unless you tell it to so it completely bypasses the search engine that's why you could make Google irrelevant.

Is the Siri program available for use without using the 4S phone? Can I use it on my Android phone? Windows PC?

If not, I still don't see how something locked to the iPhone 4S is any kind of threat to Google.

That is Apple's primary failing, they like to lock their neat apps to their own devices and platforms. And what they do release for other platforms is poorly ported trash (think itunes for windows).

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Every iteration of apple products forthwith will have siri imbedded. That means Iphones, Ipad, mac and the new TV that they are talking about. Siri will be a lynchpin for all their products.

For all the times that there has been heralded ipad and Iphone 'killers' out there by Android/google/samsung et al not one has made a dent. Now Apple has returned fire directly at google where it hurts, the pocketbook. Google is sustained by adds, Siri bypasses that outright so you don't even see them. Overtime the market will dictate what they want, do you like popups? If you do stay with google but I suspect a great deal find them annoying as hell. That is why Siri is a threat.

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For all the times that there has been heralded ipad and Iphone 'killers' out there by Android/google/samsung et al not one has made a dent.

Except that decreasing market share...

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Flooding the market with cheap knockoffs only dilutes the market it doesn't increase quality.

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While Samsung was overshadowed by Apple in terms of operating profit in the quarter, other handset makers were absolutely obliterated. Nokia shipped far and away the most units in the third quarter.6 million, according to IDC—but captured just 4 percent of the operating profits during the period.

HTC and Research in Motion each had less than 10 percent of the profits reported by handset makers for the quarter, while Sony Ericsson struggled to scratch out 1 percent. LG Electronics and Motorola Mobility reported losses in the third quarter.

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Flooding the market with cheap knockoffs only dilutes the market it doesn't increase quality.

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While Samsung was overshadowed by Apple in terms of operating profit in the quarter, other handset makers were absolutely obliterated. Nokia shipped far and away the most units in the third quarter.6 million, according to IDC—but captured just 4 percent of the operating profits during the period.

HTC and Research in Motion each had less than 10 percent of the profits reported by handset makers for the quarter, while Sony Ericsson struggled to scratch out 1 percent. LG Electronics and Motorola Mobility reported losses in the third quarter.

Not everyone can afford or wants a 700 dollar phone.

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I don't disagree but companies need to make a profit or they don't stick around.

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Scape wrote:

I don't disagree but companies need to make a profit or they don't stick around.

They're also in a world wide economic downturn.

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Scape wrote:

Every iteration of apple products forthwith will have siri imbedded. That means Iphones, Ipad, mac and the new TV that they are talking about. Siri will be a lynchpin for all their products.

For all the times that there has been heralded ipad and Iphone 'killers' out there by Android/google/samsung et al not one has made a dent. Now Apple has returned fire directly at google where it hurts, the pocketbook. Google is sustained by adds, Siri bypasses that outright so you don't even see them. Overtime the market will dictate what they want, do you like popups? If you do stay with google but I suspect a great deal find them annoying as hell. That is why Siri is a threat.

You get popups when you use Google?

In order to truly hurt Google, Apple must make Siri widely available, more widely than their own overpriced hardware. There were Android and Blackberry versions in the works before Apple bought out Siri and terminated them.

If Apple really had Google in its sights, it would have continued to develop those versions of Siri, in addition to one for Windows.

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It is Google citing Siri as a threat, not the other way around. As for Google they are dependent upon ad revenue from their search results or their entire business model collapses. Siri is the 1st search tool that is embedded upon an operating system that goes strait to the source and cuts out the middle man as part an package of the OS. You buy an apple product it comes a la carte no ad revenue is generate and that leaves google out in the cold. Come 5 years down the road when a majority of the os and devices and now running with Siri embedded that will be a real problem for Google.

http://www.dailycommonsense.com/how-doe ... ake-money/

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Advertisement, that’s how Google is making its money. Every time you do a search on Google, you’ve probably noticed that there was a section called “Sponsored Links”. Every time you click on one of those links, Google charge a certain amount of money to the website for the click. When you go on a website you’ll notice advertising from Google too. Daily Common Sense has ads from Google. Same thing happens here, when you click, Google charge a certain amount of money to the website you clicked on and part of that money is given to the webmaster publishing the ads. This is called AdSense and is an enormous source of income for Google.

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It won't matter 5 years down the line, Macs don't have enough market share. The iphone probably won't gain much more than it has, and may lose a lot. Unless they expand to other OS, then Google may lose some revenue, but it's not like it's going to cripple them.