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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:45 am
 


I attended a law enforcement meeting yesterday that had a focus on computer crimes and there was an interesting takeaway in the course of the presentations.

If law enforcement seizes your computer as part of a broader investigation let's say the reason for the broader investigation falls flat (because maybe you're innocent?). This particular presenter was encouraging law enforcement to carefully examine the computers image cache to see if there were any images that could possibly be used to justify a child porn charge.

That charge could then be used to coerce a confession to support the original investigation.

Okay, seems fine so far, right? What's wrong with leveraging criminals?

Yeah, but that's when the real shit starts. What constitutes 'child porn'?

According to this shitstain pictures of kids in the Abercrombie & Fitch website can be child porn. Incidental pictures from a Google image search - even images you never clicked on - can be child porn for the interests of law enforcement. Images from advertisements in Europe (which can involve racy pictures of teenagers) are child porn.

If it's in your image cache then it can be considered a download for the purposes of law enforcement.

My recommendations:

1. Be very careful with your image searches. They can and will be held against you in a court of law.

2. Set your browsers to empty their cache when they are closed.

3. Periodically review your own image cache to make sure that you're not incidentally 'downloading' legally questionable images.

4. Even if you set your browsers to clear on exit be sure to manually clear them once in a while.

5. Periodically review and clear your Windows image cache:

https://neosmart.net/wiki/clear-thumbnails-cache/

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:01 am
 


In Firefox, you can key <ctl><shift><p> to open a 'private window' that will not save anything to cache.

BUT! Google still saves the history of searches done on your computer, separately.

Follow these instructions to totally clear your search history:

https://support.google.com/websearch/an ... ktop&hl=en

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/see ... le-history


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:03 am
 


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That charge could then be used to coerce a confession to support the original investigation.


Might be a good time to remind people - do not speak to cops on a 'professional' level without a lawyer present. Ever. Not a fucking word. Especially if you are guilty, but even if - and especially if, you are innocent.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:08 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
That charge could then be used to coerce a confession to support the original investigation.


Might be a good time to remind people - do not speak to cops on a 'professional' level without a lawyer present. Ever. Not a fucking word. Especially if you are guilty, but even if - and especially if, you are innocent.


But I have to when it's job related. 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:17 am
 


stratos wrote:
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BartSimpson wrote:
That charge could then be used to coerce a confession to support the original investigation.


Might be a good time to remind people - do not speak to cops on a 'professional' level without a lawyer present. Ever. Not a fucking word. Especially if you are guilty, but even if - and especially if, you are innocent.


But I have to when it's job related. 8)


Totally different when it's your job, as opposed to being stopped on the street and being asked for ID. ;)

Not a fucking word!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:40 am
 


No wonder our allies don't trust us.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:53 am
 


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No wonder our allies don't trust us.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:32 pm
 


I know a guy who accidentally found child porn. He wiped the whole hard drive and started over. Later told a cop he was working with who passed it on to the computer division.

I have ended up on some very weird sites. Google doesn’t deal well with dyslexia and is no help whatsoever when I spell a word correctly just not the one I was trying for. Which explains how when looking for sewing stuff I once ended up with gay porn. Would be so much better if the letters would stay where they’re supposed to and there weren’t so many words that look the same to me. Not to mention the that have three spellings all pronounced the same


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:42 pm
 


Did an image search once for a "spreader bar". Something commonly used to lift loads with a crane or hoist. We had to build one for the shop, was looking for ideas.


I had no idea. 8O


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:57 pm
 


Is there not an OS that has plausible deniability built into it? The same what tru/veracrypt does. Where you have a login, one password will take you to x section of an encrypted hard drive, and another password will take you to another. So you can have a dummy section devoid of anything cause you don't use it, and if told to unlock your computer, you log into the dummy user, with the alternate password.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:59 pm
 


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Is there not an OS that has plausible deniability built into it? The same what tru/veracrypt does. Where you have a login, one password will take you to x section of an encrypted hard drive, and another password will take you to another. So you can have a dummy section devoid of anything cause you don't use it, and if told to unlock your computer, you log into the dummy user, with the alternate password.


What you do is you keep a virtual machine out on the web that you access via proxy. :wink:

Protip: Ireland has some pretty serious privacy laws and their government doesn't require companies to provide backdoors to foreign security agencies.


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BartSimpson wrote:
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Is there not an OS that has plausible deniability built into it? The same what tru/veracrypt does. Where you have a login, one password will take you to x section of an encrypted hard drive, and another password will take you to another. So you can have a dummy section devoid of anything cause you don't use it, and if told to unlock your computer, you log into the dummy user, with the alternate password.


What you do is you keep a virtual machine out on the web that you access via proxy. :wink:

Protip: Ireland has some pretty serious privacy laws and their government doesn't require companies to provide backdoors to foreign security agencies.

I'd want something local so I'm not required to connect to the net. I could just do what Doc does, a create/destroy a VM everyday. But god damn I'm lazy.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:10 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
In Firefox, you can key <ctl><shift><p> to open a 'private window' that will not save anything to cache.

BUT! Google still saves the history of searches done on your computer, separately.

Follow these instructions to totally clear your search history:

https://support.google.com/websearch/an ... ktop&hl=en


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/see ... le-history



Funny I just checked out the Google account not expecting to find much because I don’t use google accounts (or so I thought). But of course years ago I did make a gmail account on an android device I had at the time (have had iPhone for several years now) and I have a YouTube ap on my iPhone that I’ve be using the same sign-in so I can keep track of videos that I like. And boom! Just like that turns out I’ve been unknowingly sharing my life with Google for years now. Funny how that just info leeches over.

Nothing improper in my record but I don’t really like the idea of no privacy so li deleted what I could but certain things I can’t seem to get rid of, like a couple phone calls I made at my old job in 2013 and apparently extended family have been including me on shared files in Google Drive that I cant seem to take myself off of.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:40 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Robair wrote:
No wonder our allies don't trust us.


ROTFL


Well done......ZINGGG.......ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:43 pm
 


Had a customer with a mail order bride from South America. He'd often go on holidays, always without her. Always to Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Burma.
He was a regular, in at least every 2 weeks to get viruses removed. Worked night guard at a mill. Went there at least every 2 weeks to clean their infected computer in the office he sat in. Until they fired him, then they never got infected again.
How stupid was he? He called once long distance from Manila. Took his DSL modem with him and plugged it into his hotel phone line, why didn't our % useless Internet work? His wife called in same day why didn't our useless Internet work at her house (with no modem...)
One employee got so pissed he told the guy WTF is wrong with you, just go to youporn or redtube like everyone else. A week later the guy's back again. Same employee calls me in the backroom and points out kiddie porn on the guy's system.
Looked at the guy and told him - you're registered to be an RCMP trainee, you do the ride alongs. You got my 100% permission to call so and so at the station and earn brownie points or I will call myself.
The guy got his computer back with nothing said and a 2nd hand hard drive and fresh Windows. The other was at the cop shop.
About a month later a junior employee who rented the townhouse next to the perv came to work all freaked out. He and his friend went to the backyard to smoke a joint and found the perv with a belt around his neck hanging from the clothesline. He'd also shot himself in the head....
to this day others who knew him but didn't know his secrets say he did it because he discovered incurable cancer. Real sad his insurance was voided and his wife went back to South America penniless.
Just one of the stories I could tell about how prevalent that shit is.


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