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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:44 am
 


Title: 3 trillion tons of Antarctic ice lost since 1992, seas rising, study suggests
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-06-14 06:11:11
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:44 am
 


That's a lot, right?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:30 am
 


llama66 wrote:
That's a lot, right?

A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is just under 32 years. A trillion seconds is 31,709.8 years.

Yeah, it's alot.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:31 am
 


llama66 wrote:
That's a lot, right?


Not really since the study only 'suggests' that this is the case.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:39 am
 


Good News! 99.989% of the Antarctic Ice Sheet Didn’t Melt!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:42 am
 


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99.989% rounds up to 100%. This is fantastic news… Unless you’re a Warmunist. Fortunately for Warmunists, Science News tailors their headlines to your preferences…

3 trillion tons of Antarctic ice lost since 1992, seas rising, study suggests!!! Image

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Is context a violation of the Warmunist Manifesto?

Even if all of the melting was from the only place in Antarctica that’s actually losing ice (only slightly sarcastic), the Antarctic Peninsula, it would only be 1.441%… Leaving 98.559% of the ice on the Antarctic Peninsula un-melted, along with 100% of the ice on the other 99% of the Antarctic Ice Sheet.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/14/ ... idnt-melt/


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:57 am
 


The number itself doesn't mean anything without context. I guess it does put to rest the lie the deniers have been on about the Antarctic not being affected by global warming (the East Antarctic is gaining ice mass, I believe).

And Fiddledog shows up instantly with imported, moronic memes from his alt-right websites, so obviously they found it disturbing enough to mount a screeching and feces-flinging campaign.

The issue is the rate of melt--it is increasing (not surprising given rising CO2 levels and average global temperatures), which has important outcomes for predicting sea level rise.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:01 pm
 


Listen, everything is fine. The North Atlantic current is fine. There is no flooding along the coasts, everything is fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:22 pm
 


Zipperfish wrote:
I guess it does put to rest the lie the deniers have been on about the Antarctic not being affected by global warming


A suggestion does no such thing.


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Zipperfish wrote:
I guess it does put to rest the lie the deniers have been on about the Antarctic not being affected by global warming


A suggestion does no such thing.


:roll:

You’re not serious are you?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:40 pm
 


Zipperfish wrote:
And Fiddledog shows up instantly with imported, moronic memes from his alt-right websites


Which? [huh] You mean Watts? Are your far left zealots telling you Watts is "alt-right" now? (not going to look for a shaking my head in disgust smiley. Just imagine I'm doing it.)

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so obviously they found it disturbing enough to mount a screeching and feces-flinging campaign.


Again...what? [huh] You mean math? You're having a problem with math now, are you? You've gotta stop hangin' wherever it is you're hangin', Zip. You used to like Math.

The math says this:

"Even if all of the melting was from the only place in Antarctica that’s actually losing ice (only slightly sarcastic), the Antarctic Peninsula, it would only be 1.441%… Leaving 98.559% of the ice on the Antarctic Peninsula un-melted, along with 100% of the ice on the other 99% of the Antarctic Ice Sheet."


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Zipperfish wrote:
The number itself doesn't mean anything without context. I guess it does put to rest the lie the deniers have been on about the Antarctic not being affected by global warming (the East Antarctic is gaining ice mass, I believe).

And Fiddledog shows up instantly with imported, moronic memes from his alt-right websites, so obviously they found it disturbing enough to mount a screeching and feces-flinging campaign.

The issue is the rate of melt--it is increasing (not surprising given rising CO2 levels and average global temperatures), which has important outcomes for predicting sea level rise.


This is basic reason why Bill Nye refuses to talk at all to the taxpayer-funded assclowns from the Kentucky Creationist "Museum". There is literally no point in discussing anything with fundamentalists or science-deniers. All that is accomplished is a waste of valuable time and moral energy.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:07 pm
 


Bill Nye is not a science guy (that character was originally created for a standup comedy routine), and the topic of creationism has nothing to do with climate science.

Concerning the thread topic, Zip says "The number itself doesn't mean anything without context," but I don't think he realizes how ironic that is because that was the point of the post from Watts that you two are posing smug as being superior over.

Go ahead then science guys, find the actual global sea-rise since 1992. Project it forward to the end of the century. Tell me why we need to be building an ark based on your projections. Warning: if it's over 7 inches I'm going to be checking your math. Also your data.

And since you're boasting your superior scientific knowledge T, please tell us about the science concerning underwater Volcanoes and southern shifting currents in the Western Antarctic. Explain to me how what you discover means I need to buy an electric car and cross my fingers hoping for a global government to come in and adjust the world's global thermostat. Because they tell us they can do that. It's science, you see. Image


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:27 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
Bill Nye is not a science guy (that character was originally created for a standup comedy routine), and the topic of creationism has nothing to do with climate science.


Would it matter if he was a science guy? Would you suddenly go: "Oh, this guy has spent his life studying this stuff, maybe we should listen to him." I don't think so. I'm a science guy. I've spent years doing the math on climate change. I don't recall any of the deniers here ever giving me the slightest bit of credulity over that.

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Concerning the thread topic, Zip says "The number itself doesn't mean anything without context," but I don't think he realizes how ironic that is because that was the point of the post from Watts that you two are posing smug as being superior over.


Smug? Trying reading that article where the guy does a percentage operation (a simple division and multiplication operation) and then thinks he's discovered something that has been missed by every PhD on the planet. That's smug.

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Go ahead then science guys, find the actual global sea-rise since 1992. Project it forward to the end of the century. Tell me why we need to be building an ark based on your projections. Warning: if it's over 7 inches I'm going to be checking your math. Also your data.
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Those studies are already out there and readily available, written by people a lot more knowledgeable than me on the subject. Maybe you could get your info there instead of trained propagandists at Gateway Pundit and Watts Up.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:30 pm
 


Bill Nye has a degree in mechanical engineering (which is science) from Cornell University (an Ivy League school) where one of his professors was the famed Carl Sagan. He worked as an engineer for Boeing, where he invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor tube used on the Boeing 747. He was the CEO of the Planetary Society, helped develop sundials for the Mars Exploration Rover missions and has written two best-selling books on science. So kinda sounds like a “science guy” to me.


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