[Newsbot]

Title: Act of heroism exposes Canada's �arcane' and �contradictory' self-defence laws
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Gunnair
Date: 2011-10-30 12:30:20
Canadian

[Blue_goose80]

So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Blue_goose80 wrote:

So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?

Sounds about right, these days

[DrCaleb]

Blue_goose80 wrote:

So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?

or . . . While one day they may find the bodies, they will never get a positive ID.

[BartSimpson]

All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson wrote:

All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?

Actually, I've never had an issue with Castle Doctrine up to a point. Personally, I think one should be able to booby-trap potential forced entry points as well.

[jeff744]

DrCaleb wrote:

Blue_goose80 wrote:

So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?

or . . . While one day they may find the bodies, they will never get a positive ID.

If you live on a farm and are smart they will never stand a chance of finding them, what will his thieving buddies do? Admit they broke into your property and now they can't find their buddy? Good luck getting the police to put in the effort to find that body.

[Yogi]

Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

[jeff744]

PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:

BartSimpson wrote:

All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?

Actually, I've never had an issue with Castle Doctrine up to a point. Personally, I think one should be able to booby-trap potential forced entry points as well.

I seriously pondered doing something similar to that to my car after it was stolen for the second time. I wanted to rig it so when they smashed my window the door would be rigged with a can of Nos to fly into the bastard that was trying to take it.

[jeff744]

Yogi wrote:

Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.

[Yogi]

jeff744 wrote:

Yogi wrote:

Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.

How you gonna get caught [i]if you SHUT-UP!??? [/i]

[DrCaleb]

Yogi wrote:

jeff744 wrote:

Yogi wrote:

Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.

How you gonna get caught [i]if you SHUT-UP!??? [/i]

Usually because the neighbour's dog comes home with a femur after digging it up.

But he's right - When young man can kill another young man with a baseball bat and get 1 year probation, and this guy is looking at 10 years for trying to protect his wife from being a victim of vehicluar homicide . . .I'd guess you could plead 'shoot shovel and shut up' down to 'causing indecency to human remains' and a 6 months house arrest.

[uwish]

well, I know the CPC are working an a revision of the self defense laws, hopefully this will end some of the needless BS of charging victims of crime.

I really is a mess our current law(s) and the idea of crown prosecutors pretty much charging everyone involved has to stop.

[Strutz]

Quote:

The Criminal Code provisions that govern self-defence and defence of property are “arcane, unduly complex, contradictory and just basically a mess,” said Steven Penney, a University of Alberta law professor.

Or to put it simply... all fucked up.


Did the assholes who trashed his house pay for all the damages done? Doubt it.

Now that this family has a dog they should advertise it (because I'm sure that the failure to make it clear there is a dog on the premises would carry some bullshit charge)

One like this should make it pretty clear:

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German Sheppard on watch.jpg [ 81.65 KiB | Viewed 85 times ]

[2Cdo]

Strutz wrote:

Quote:

The Criminal Code provisions that govern self-defence and defence of property are “arcane, unduly complex, contradictory and just basically a mess,” said Steven Penney, a University of Alberta law professor.

Or to put it simply... all fucked up.


Did the assholes who trashed his house pay for all the damages done? Doubt it.

Now that this family has a dog they should advertise it (because I'm sure that the failure to make it clear there is a dog on the premises would carry some bullshit charge)

One like this should make it pretty clear:

Attachment:

German Sheppard on watch.jpg

Unfortunately a sign like this or a "Beware Dog" sign would tell the courts that you knew your dog would attack and you would be charged.